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International Worker's Day (aka. Labour Day or May Day)
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Type XXIII



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:32 am    Post subject: International Worker's Day (aka. Labour Day or May Day) Reply with quote

Congratulations, comrades.

Today is May 1st. Established as the International Worker's Day by the Second International in 1899, partly to commemorate the 1886 Haymarket Riot, this day is the day for socialist movements to demonstrate in support of workers' rights.

The day is marked in various manners around the world, here in Norway there's rallies organized by labour unions and left-oriented parties.

Personally, I've participated in a rally at the town square earlier today. The paroles were mostly local, maintaining birth and emergency facilities at the local hospital, and national, stopping privatization of various state companies. There was also a parole for a Free Palestine, which I gather most of you wouldn't support.

Anybody else who have marked the day somehow or have any views?
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Kapitan



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mayday parades should be takeing place in russia right now shame i cant be there.
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The Avon Lady



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see that May Day is being marked in the US today by protests and work stopages by illegal aliens and their supporters.

I hope that anyone who has the opportunity to fire illegals that took of from work today does so and hires legal aliens and citizens in their place.

The nerve! :down:
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August



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Avon Lady wrote:
I see that May Day is being marked in the US today by protests and work stopages by illegal aliens and their supporters.

I hope that anyone who has the opportunity to fire illegals that took of from work today does so and hires legal aliens and citizens in their place.

The nerve! :down:


One would hope so...
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Subject: ILLEGAL ALIENS (KEY word is ILLEGAL)



HUMAN EVENTS ONLINE
By: Mac Johnson

May 1st is better known as the Marxist holiday of May Day.

This May Day campaign will consist of yet more anti-law-enforcement marches and a nationwide boycott of shopping.

The aim of the boycott is to demonstrate the purchasing power of the 11 million ILLEGAL immigration criminals demanding amnesty.

The boycott will also include a general strike by immigration criminals, who are being encouraged to skip work that day.

Now it appears that illegal aliens are here to just skip the jobs that
no American is willing to skip.

If the boycott and strike are successful, this means that May 1 will be A DAY WITHOUT ILLEGAL ALIENS! Lines will be shorter. Clerks will all speak English. Businesses that have been honest enough to hire LEGAL residents will be poised to finally enjoy a competitive advantage!

It will be morning again in America.

EVERY American should make a point to get out and support those
businesses and counteract the criminal boycott movement.

SPEND like a congressman!

Heck, spend like Teddy Kennedy on a junket to a distillery or a
convention!

SPEND in freedom!

Order in a mall or SPEND at a Wal-Mart near you!

I hereby declare May 1 to be a national holiday --
Conservative Shopping Day!

Show the doubters that a day without illegal aliens is not a crisis,
it's just a good start!

SPREAD the word!

Forward this notice or send out your own.

Let it be shouted, in clear unaccented English, from every mountaintop and blog: SPEND, GRINGOS, SPEND!

Lastly, be sure to make note of which businesses can still function on a day without illegal aliens, so that you can patronize them everyday for a long time.

Let's turn the day without illegal aliens into an everyday thing.


TO THE WAL-MART, COMRADES!


Mr. Johnson, a writer and medical researcher in Cambridge, MA., is a regular contributor to Human Events. His column generally appears on Mondays.


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Type XXIII



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Avon Lady wrote:
I see that May Day is being marked in the US today by protests and work stopages by illegal aliens and their supporters.

I hope that anyone who has the opportunity to fire illegals that took of from work today does so and hires legal aliens and citizens in their place.

The nerve! :down:


What goes around, comes around, I guess. Employers employing illegal immigrants (for whatever reason) and then treating them so badly that a strike is triggered. An employer is dependant of his workers, illegal immigrants or not. I don't know if these immigrants are organized or not, but I'd guess they aren't.

If this is so then the employers might very well employ other workers, but my guess would be that those new workers will demand more payment than those immigrants.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Type XXIII wrote:
The Avon Lady wrote:
I see that May Day is being marked in the US today by protests and work stopages by illegal aliens and their supporters.

I hope that anyone who has the opportunity to fire illegals that took of from work today does so and hires legal aliens and citizens in their place.

The nerve! :down:


What goes around, comes around, I guess. Employers employing illegal immigrants (for whatever reason) and then treating them so badly that a strike is triggered. An employer is dependant of his workers, illegal immigrants or not. I don't know if these immigrants are organized or not, but I'd guess they aren't.

If this is so then the employers might very well employ other workers, but my guess would be that those new workers will demand more payment than those immigrants.


If the employers were treating them badly, they would not want to stay. What they are demanding, is to be given citzenship. Not go about it legally as others have had to do.
And I'm sure once they get it, they will not want to work as they are now, but will demand more money, benefits, etc..... therefore paving the way for more illegal immigrants.
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The Avon Lady



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Type XXIII wrote:
The Avon Lady wrote:
I see that May Day is being marked in the US today by protests and work stopages by illegal aliens and their supporters.

I hope that anyone who has the opportunity to fire illegals that took of from work today does so and hires legal aliens and citizens in their place.

The nerve! :down:


What goes around, comes around, I guess. Employers employing illegal immigrants (for whatever reason) and then treating them so badly that a strike is triggered. An employer is dependant of his workers, illegal immigrants or not. I don't know if these immigrants are organized or not, but I'd guess they aren't.

If this is so then the employers might very well employ other workers, but my guess would be that those new workers will demand more payment than those immigrants.

This is a solidarity type of strike. It is calling for all illegal aliens to strike, including those that are treated just fine.

BTW, do you have a statistic that shows what percentage of illegal aliens are mistreated by their US employers? I don't think so.

And the main purpose of the strike isn't to protest their work conditions. It's to demand that they be granted amnesty and no longer be illegal.

The nerve! :down:

Here's a good read: A Day Without an Illegal Immigrant - An imaginary exercise.
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Torpedo Fodder



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This protest is not going to get the illegals anything either way: If it succeeds in having it's desired effect of disrupting the economy, then it will be seen as blackmail and simply harden the public's resolve against them. If it doesn't work, the public will come to the conclusion that illegals really aren't as important to the economy as they would have us believe, and thus make people less averse to deporting them and punishing businesses who hire them.
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TteFAboB



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least nobody was bothered with the intended May 1st holliday. Everybody won already, now we can devote our attention to truly important dates, like the Post-Office day or the Fire-fighter day.

Muchas Gracias. Thumbs Up
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Ducimus



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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only hope these protests strength the American Citizens resolve to remove these leech's from our country. They are nothing less then domestic outsourcing that puts American Citizens out of work.

I cannot beleive the nerve of these people. They want right's id give them rights ... one free all expense paid trip back to their home where they came from.

Sharkstooth wrote:

If the employers were treating them badly, they would not want to stay. What they are demanding, is to be given citzenship. Not go about it legally as others have had to do.
And I'm sure once they get it, they will not want to work as they are now, but will demand more money, benefits, etc..... therefore paving the way for more illegal immigrants.


If people think we have alot of mexican's in our country now, wait tell what happens if these people get their way. You may as well erase the nations southern border, as it may as well not exist anymore. Our nation, combined with mexico, with welfare, and taquito's for all.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:12 pm    Post subject: Statehood for Mexico Reply with quote

Solving the Illegal Immigration Problem


Illegal immigration is back in the news these days with both parties failing to come up with a solution to the problem. The reasons behind this failure are manifold but basically break down to the Democrats wanting more voters and the Republicans and their corporate masters wanting an endless pool of cheap labor to drive down wages. Thus, neither party has an incentive to solve the problem and the only people left out in the cold are the citizens of the United States. At the same time, recent polls in Mexico suggest that 50% of Mexican citizens would move to the US if given the opportunity.

I believe I have a solution to this problem once and for all. The solution is the annexation or union of the United States and Mexico under the United States Constitution and federal laws. This would accomplish many positive things for the citizens of the United States and Mexico. For Mexicans, US wage, hour and environmental laws would immediately benefit Mexican workers by increasing their wages and improving their working conditions. The adoption of US federal laws and law enforcement would enable Mexicans to better fight and defeat the drug cartels that have made the border areas of both nations into a war zone. They would also contribute to ameliorating the endemic corruption inside the Mexican government and law enforcement. By making everyone citizens of one country, former Mexicans could travel and work freely within the borders of the entire country. Mexican political parties would be free to organize and campaign for votes within the entire nation, breaking the stranglehold of the Democrats and Republicans.

For US citizens, Benefits would be equally strong. We would trade a 2000 mile border for a 500 mile border making it cheaper and more effective to enforce border security. Access to the Mexican oil reserves would lessen this country’s dependence on foreign oil supplies from politically volatile areas of the world bringing prices down and providing an engine for growth in the area of the former Mexico. The ability of US citizens to own property in Mexico would also bring investment opportunities to Mexico and help build the overall economy as a whole. The infusion of 300 million young legal workers would give the Social Security program a much needed boost and keep it solvent into the 22nd century.

As far as the mechanics of union proceed, I would use constitutional guidelines to guarantee Mexican citizens equal representation in Congress. Each state in Mexico would receive 2 Senate seats and the House of Representatives would be increased in size by giving proportional representation to Mexican citizens at the same per capita rate as currently in force in the US right now. By accomplishing this, we would give equal political opportunity to Mexican political parties as well as our own.

One hundred and fifty-eight years ago, my ancestor, General Winfield Scott, invaded and conquered Mexico in the first US war of imperialism. The only reason the entire country was not annexed outright then was due to the existence of slavery and the fact that the entire country would be annexed as slave states. That issue is long settled so there are no major impediments to this union as far as I can see.
So this is my solution, Union with Mexico. Viva la Revoluccion!


© Richard B. Scott 2006
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PeriscopeDepth



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/01/dobbs.immigrantprotests/index.html
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The Avon Lady



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:45 am    Post subject: Re: Statehood for Mexico Reply with quote

Ishmael wrote:
One hundred and fifty-eight years ago, my ancestor, General Winfield Scott, invaded and conquered Mexico in the first US war of imperialism.

For a more accurate historical assessment, read The Mexican War.
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Ishmael



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main cause of the Texas revolt that precipitated the war was the transfer of governance of Texas to the Mexican state of Santa Fe. The former Mexican state government in Texas was very willing to allow slavery in it's territory, going so far as to pass a law permitting indentured servitude for life for the slaves imported from the US. When Santa Fe was given control by the Mexican federalists, the Santa Fe government was vehemently opposed to slavery in any form. The main reason for this was that government's experience with the autonomous tribes of present day New Mexico and the cooperation it received from the tribes. When the US immigrants learned of the change in state government, they conspired with the former Texas state government to revolt and declare independance. This was also one of the reasons that US abolitionists opposed the war. This was before the Compromise of 1850 and the abolitionists were very worried about the spread of slavery into the new territories and the permanent power slaveholders and their allies would gain.
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