From rags to riches?

Skybird · Joined: 21 Sep 2001 Posts: 4131 Location: Germany

Obviously the findings in that report no one minds to adress. what FDR and the time before him casued in effects is not so much important anymore. what the rwlaity is like in the present, say the last 10-15 years until today - this is what counts, I would think: or where the history of the last decades las led us to in the present.

bradclark1 · Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 1007 Location: Connecticut, USA.

The Avon Lady · Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 3267 Location: Jerusalem, Israel

August · Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 1296 Location: Rhode Island

The wealthy also require an entire host of business services that are owned and operated by the middle class.

Type XXIII · Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 124 Location: Norway

The main point of this report is not asking whether we need a middle class or upper class, but rather asking if the American dream is a lie.

The report establishes that there are few chances that a child of poor parents will be rich when he grows up. It also shows that hard work is less and less rewarded. Cases of hardworking people working their way up from a poor background and being succesful are rare.

To quote Leonard Cohen "The poor stay poor, the rich get rich./That's how it goes./Everybody knows."

The Avon Lady · Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 3267 Location: Jerusalem, Israel

August · Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 1296 Location: Rhode Island

Deathblow · Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Posts: 392

My impression is that the first two post seem like outta the blue rants.... Do either of those two even live in the US? Reading newspapers and viewing from a far?

scandium · Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 350

August · Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 1296 Location: Rhode Island

Sorry but factory labor is NOT a middle class job.

scandium · Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 350

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Iceman · Joined: 14 Sep 2002 Posts: 1077 Location: Mesa Arizona

1 Timothy 6
[1] Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.
[2] And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort.
[3] If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
[4] He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
[5] Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
[6] But godliness with contentment is great gain.
[7] For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
[8] And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
[9] But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
[10] For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
[11] But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
[12] Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
[13] I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
[14] That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[15] Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
[16] Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
[17] Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;
[18] That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;
[19] Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.
[20] O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
[21] Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

One again for you Skybird...

The curse of man was to toil the ground all the days of his life and thorns and thistles will it yeild...Indeed...Be thankfull only the ground was cursed.Eat your daily bread with a humble heart.