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Have other countries produced there own stealth bombers? |
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No |
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Kindof sorta |
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I can't decide |
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I like pretty colors |
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Deathblow
Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Posts: 392
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:47 pm Post subject: Who else has stealth bombers? |
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*[FOX]* Bort's post got me thinking... Do you think that other countries have developed their own version of the stealth fighter (F117 counterpart) or B2 bomber by now?
The basics of the technology have been known to the public for about 15 years now (since the first Gulf War unveiling of the F117 and even longer when you think of the B2) )than that by radar manufacturers. Flat sides to deflect radar waves and radar-absorbant material to absorb the rest. Doesn't seem like the theory behind it is too much of a mystery and other should be able to design a steath plane on paper at least. We're certainly seening the basic principles of stealth being implemented across many platforms, but how what about the design of a soley steath platform designed to for undetectability as its primary design constraint like the F117?
If so who?...If not, why not...
...Is it only a matter of affordability, with the $120 million apiece price tag as well as the research and development cost still not worth it to most other militaries? Maybe compounded by lack of a industry base that could construct such a craft in reasonable numbers with all its material requirements and necessary construction techniques? and design consproduce the needed materials in enough quantities, and infrastructure needed to develope and construct need be in place, but surely someone else has duplicated the systems.
Personally.... I haven't decided yet. I'm certain that all militaries have a stealth bomber finished on paper... but to whether its been built... :hmm: |
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Kapitan
Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 5385 Location: essex england also st petersburg russia
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Well russia has tried and has a few designs but not much also Britian has a few plans but other than that i dont know. |
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Sailor Steve
Joined: 22 Nov 2002 Posts: 5433 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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If they're truly stealthy, how would we know? |
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mapuc
Joined: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 103 Location: south sweden
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Sweden haven't got any stealth bombers like the B2-Spirit. We have got some stealth vessel like the HMS Visby
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Deathblow
Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Posts: 392
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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mapuc wrote: | Sweden haven't got any stealth bombers like the B2-Spirit. We have got some stealth vessel like the HMS Visby
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Oooooooo Cool \ Thats a spiffy looking ship. No AAW capability? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visby_class_corvette |
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Deathblow
Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Posts: 392
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Sailor Steve wrote: | If they're truly stealthy, how would we know? |
We don't. That's the point of the poll, to see what people think. :know: |
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NeonSamurai
Joined: 10 Jan 2002 Posts: 504
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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I like pretty colors!
Well the main reason is the price tag, the b2's go for at least a couple billion each. RnD costs run in the multi billions. Stealth aircraft are super expensive to develope and make and most countries dont wana put that kind of money into such a specialized vehicle.
Also the Fighter designation for the F-117 is totaly wrong, its not a fighter, never was designed as a fighter, cant act like a fighter, and heck cant even engage other aircraft with anything other then mean thoughts. it should have been A-117 or B-117. Though they didnt want to call it B because most other aircraft with the B designation are all big , and A doesnt quite work as the 117 doesnt generaly attack tanks and similar military ground targets, usualy just buildings. So instead they went with F which is something it doesnt do at all Maybe they should have called it SSB-117 or small stealth bomber but then they might get mixed up with the navy sub designations. |
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Deathblow
Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Posts: 392
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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NeonSamurai wrote: | I like pretty colors! |
Sweet! Me too!
Quote: | Well the main reason is the price tag, the b2's go for at least a couple billion each. |
... wow... you know, I didn't realize that those B2s were running in the billion dollar range, I always assumed they were about around hundreads of million range. Learn something new everyday. http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/b-2-specs.htm |
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CCIP
Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 3224 Location: Ottawa, Canada [Grid BA7311]
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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I think that depends on the definition of "stealth". :hmm:
Frankly, it's possible that there will be other types of "stealth" than funny shapes and bucketloads of RAM on the wings. |
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TLAM Strike
Joined: 30 Apr 2002 Posts: 4866 Location: Rochester, New York
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject: Glory to the Empire! |
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You pathetic humans have much to learn about stealth... |
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Godalmighty83
Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 207
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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perhaps the reason for the lack of stealth craft is how unsuccesful its often percieved.
theres no such thing as true stealth, only 'harder to see'. |
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Kapitan
Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 5385 Location: essex england also st petersburg russia
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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There is no such thing as a true stealth jet, all them funny sides do not eliminate its radar picture it just makes it smaller and harder to see. |
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STEED
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 1671 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Show me a 100% stealth plane and I will buy you a drink. |
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Torplexed
Joined: 25 Dec 2001 Posts: 1194 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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STEED wrote: | Show me a 100% stealth plane and I will buy you a drink. |
How about Wonder Women's Invisible Jet? I saw it on teevee so it must be real. Where's my drink? A Mountain Dew will do.
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STEED
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 1671 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Best laugh I had all day the drinks in the post. |
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