Maybe in SH5 we can finally be American subs

Kpt. Franz-Josef Lemmle · Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 32

Maybe I am the only one...but I am NOT interested in being Japanese in SHIV. The American subs like the USS Bowfin have such a great story to tell, why make SHIV Japanese?! :down: :down: :down:

AG124 · Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 770 Location: Canada

Unless something has changed, I have heard that SHIV is going to have US subs after all. It was initially reported that the subs were going to be Japanese, but then it was officially announced that they would be US.

Rosencrantz · Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 280

Whatta... :huh:
Jeez... Nearly got a stroke... :dead:

Next time, think twice what kind of post you will sent! PLEASE. Stare

People here could get killed by your actions! :8 Cool

USN boats

-RC-

AG124 · Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 770 Location: Canada

Rosencrantz · Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 280

No, not you AG! Kptn was on my crosshair. Laughing

Greetings,

-RC-

Rosencrantz · Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 280

What Kptn wrote, got me just a little nervous... Razz

Don't wanna change coming gato for I-boat. Rotfl

-RC-

GlobalExplorer · Joined: 14 May 2005 Posts: 234 Location: Berlin

Hopefully we'll get both. There are more than 100 million Japanese and SHIV with Japanese subs would be a smash hit there. I hope someone at UBI realizes how many more copies they could sell for some U-Boat interiors and additional artwork.

bookworm_020 · Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 179 Location: Sydney, Australia

Global explorer, I think your sig is wrong, isn't windows the evil empire??

Torplexed · Joined: 25 Dec 2001 Posts: 1194 Location: Seattle, WA

I think that sig is a riot myself. Rotfl

STEED · Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 1671 Location: England

McBeck · Joined: 23 Feb 2001 Posts: 1660 Location: Denmark

Fab · Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 22

I am not a scholar on Japanese submarines, or the naval war in the Pacific to any great extent, but just wanted to chime in on a few thoughts which may or may not be 100% accurate.

American submarines pounded Japanese shipping. I mean, more than half of Japanese merchant shipping (over five million tons) was sunk by American submarines, right?

But Japanese submarines were not primarily used against shipping, but against warships, or later to transport supplies. Neither of those sounds like a very fun mission to undertake.

Most importantly, however, didn't the Japanese view service in submarines to be without much honor, thus the sub service was filled up with more than its share of the worst sailors in the IJN? Compared to the USN in which service in submarines is almost considered elite.

So I would think Japanese submarines would be much of a hit, maybe not even in Japan. I don't know how much is left of the old cultural concepts now among the Japanese "video game" crowd, but I would think sneaking around in a submarine just wouldn't appeal to the average Japanese person.

Feel free to debunk anything I've said above, as I am not 100% of any of it.

Tonnage_Ace · Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 260 Location: Vancouver, B.C.

The Japanese invented the stealth concept, or at least honed it to perfection with the ninja mentality/skills/self-discipline. Quite the contradiction to the suspected views of serving on a Japanese sub in WWII.

Fab · Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 22

Weren't the ninja officially looked down upon as a distasteful but necessary political tool of the Sengoku Jidai period? I don't think the Japanese, then or in WWII, prided themselves on being sneaky. I thought the concept was to seek glory in battle and, if the needs of the emperor were served by it, death.

Tonnage_Ace · Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 260 Location: Vancouver, B.C.