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Deathblow
Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Posts: 392
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: Kilo's with propulsors |
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This picture has come up intermitantly on the forums.
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So I take it that this mean that Kilo's will now possess propulsors like their nuke counterparts, which is only logical seeing the the technology works wonderfully. But that being the case... are Kilo's even *that* much more quiet than they already were . Scary thought. Coupled with AIP these are scary times for the old 7kton nuke boys. |
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Sonoboy
Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Posts: 59
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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I'm shaking in my boots!
Nah, all we have to do is look for that black line on sonar, hehe. |
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Kapitan
Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 5385 Location: essex england also st petersburg russia
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Yup that picture belongs to me and is of the russian black sea fleet submarine Alrosa, which is the only kilo fitted with this type of propulsion system |
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PeriscopeDepth
Joined: 07 Jul 2002 Posts: 515 Location: LoCal
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Kapitan wrote: | Yup that picture belongs to me |
You took that picture? |
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Kapitan
Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 5385 Location: essex england also st petersburg russia
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:08 am Post subject: |
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My good friend sergey did, he takes pictures for the russian and ukrainian navy's, and he also sells them.
If you want to get big Pictures il dig out his email or better still ask javier and see what sort of stuff he has to offer, most is books and pictures, but they are in russian.
Sergey took pictures of alrosa not all that long ago these are fairly recent. |
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Kapitan
Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 5385 Location: essex england also st petersburg russia
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:16 am Post subject: |
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Here are some of alrosa again same set of pictures.
These pictures have or are on the black sea fleet website when i find the thing then il post up.
Ever seen a typhoon in dry dock?
Have now
Whats big metal heavy and glows in the dark?
This OK650B nuclear reactor on board the russian typhoon class submarine.
Ever wonderd how big the typhoons propellors are?
Wonder no more
For more pictures i have a online photo album
http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/russian-navy01/
Enjoy |
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LuftWolf
Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 1872 Location: Free New York
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Well, now've all got the Russian State Secrets on our harddrives...
Seriously, that must be one of the best collections of Russian Naval photos around. I'm surprised the Russians are so cavalier about having such pictures floating around, so much could be learned by a skilled eye from those pictures.
Nice reactor shots in particular.
And to think, we still can't see the Nautilus engineering space. |
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OneShot
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 704 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:37 am Post subject: |
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You know reading that a dived Typhoon displaces as much as a WW2 Carrier is one thing, but looking at this big mo**erfu*ker is one hell of an argument that that statement is true. |
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Kapitan
Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 5385 Location: essex england also st petersburg russia
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:58 am Post subject: |
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562 feet in length (not far off the modern day HMS ark royal)
82.2 feet wide (almost twice as wide as a ohio SSBN)
48,000 tonnes (almost 2 and a half times the wieght of HMS Ark royal
So yup she is massive by any scale, infact there was planns to convert the submarine into a gas carrying transport submarine once they had decomissioned them.
In comparison though the reason why the typhoon only carrys 20 missiles instead of 24 is because of the sheer size.
The SS-N-20 missile is alot larger than a trident, and almost 30 tonnes heavier, to compair the SS-N-20 is 93 tonnes compaired to the trident's 59 tonnes. (http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/slbm/d-5.htm)
Sadly all typhoons will be laid up pending disposal by 2010 the last is the TK208 Dmitri Donskoy which is being used as a trials submarine, however TK20 Severstal and TK13 Simbrisk remain active all are based at Zapadnya Litsa.
When construction was approved The typhoons were to number 12 but only 7 were built (7th being broken up before completion).
A sobering note is that these submarines have enough nuclear warheads to destroy europe (main citys and towns), due to START and SALT treatys the number of warhead carried have been reduced to 200 per boat.
Up untill 1998 all the typhoon submarines names and penant numbers remained a state seacret.
In essence the OK-650B has been surpassed that reactor is now far obsolete and is only kept on the submarines because they only have a few more years to go before they retire, the eldest submarine being over 30 years old and the youngest nearing 20. |
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LuftWolf
Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 1872 Location: Free New York
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:00 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, Blair, Neal got your ass good. |
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Kapitan
Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 5385 Location: essex england also st petersburg russia
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Got my arse no way man i love my avatar in fact he done me a favour, ive wanted an avatar change for a long long time. |
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LuftWolf
Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 1872 Location: Free New York
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Well, at least everyone knows now just who they are dealing with. |
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TLAM Strike
Joined: 30 Apr 2002 Posts: 4866 Location: Rochester, New York
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:42 am Post subject: |
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OneShot wrote: | You know reading that a dived Typhoon displaces as much as a WW2 Carrier is one thing, but looking at this big mo**erfu*ker is one hell of an argument that that statement is true. |
Yorktown Class CV (as built 1937) Vs. Typhoon SSBN
25,500 tons full load
809.5 feet long (761 WL)
109.5 feet wide (83.25 WL)
26,500 Tons Submerged
562.7 feet long
80.7 feet wide |
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Kazuaki Shimazaki II
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 146
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Kapitan wrote: | In essence the OK-650B has been surpassed that reactor is now far obsolete and is only kept on the submarines because they only have a few more years to go before they retire, the eldest submarine being over 30 years old and the youngest nearing 20. |
So what are they going to, still the KPM (whatever THAT means)? |
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Molon Labe
Joined: 16 Jun 2004 Posts: 1052 Location: Bloomington, IN, USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Oneshot, is that one of the officer's images from PTO II? |
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