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Deathblow



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: Kilo's with propulsors Reply with quote

This picture has come up intermitantly on the forums.

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So I take it that this mean that Kilo's will now possess propulsors like their nuke counterparts, which is only logical seeing the the technology works wonderfully. But that being the case... are Kilo's even *that* much more quiet than they already were Surprised . Scary thought. Coupled with AIP these are scary times for the old 7kton nuke boys.
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Sonoboy



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm shaking in my boots!

Nah, all we have to do is look for that black line on sonar, hehe.
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Kapitan



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup that picture belongs to me and is of the russian black sea fleet submarine Alrosa, which is the only kilo fitted with this type of propulsion system
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PeriscopeDepth



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kapitan wrote:
Yup that picture belongs to me


You took that picture?
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Kapitan



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My good friend sergey did, he takes pictures for the russian and ukrainian navy's, and he also sells them.

If you want to get big Pictures il dig out his email or better still ask javier and see what sort of stuff he has to offer, most is books and pictures, but they are in russian.

Sergey took pictures of alrosa not all that long ago these are fairly recent.
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Kapitan



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some of alrosa again same set of pictures.










These pictures have or are on the black sea fleet website when i find the thing then il post up.

Ever seen a typhoon in dry dock?


Have now

Whats big metal heavy and glows in the dark?

This OK650B nuclear reactor on board the russian typhoon class submarine.


Ever wonderd how big the typhoons propellors are?


Wonder no more


For more pictures i have a online photo album

http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/russian-navy01/

Enjoy
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LuftWolf



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, now've all got the Russian State Secrets on our harddrives... Laughing

Seriously, that must be one of the best collections of Russian Naval photos around. I'm surprised the Russians are so cavalier about having such pictures floating around, so much could be learned by a skilled eye from those pictures.

Nice reactor shots in particular.

And to think, we still can't see the Nautilus engineering space. Smile
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OneShot



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know reading that a dived Typhoon displaces as much as a WW2 Carrier is one thing, but looking at this big mo**erfu*ker is one hell of an argument that that statement is true.
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Kapitan



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

562 feet in length (not far off the modern day HMS ark royal)
82.2 feet wide (almost twice as wide as a ohio SSBN)
48,000 tonnes (almost 2 and a half times the wieght of HMS Ark royal

So yup she is massive by any scale, infact there was planns to convert the submarine into a gas carrying transport submarine once they had decomissioned them.

In comparison though the reason why the typhoon only carrys 20 missiles instead of 24 is because of the sheer size.

The SS-N-20 missile is alot larger than a trident, and almost 30 tonnes heavier, to compair the SS-N-20 is 93 tonnes compaired to the trident's 59 tonnes. (http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/slbm/d-5.htm)

Sadly all typhoons will be laid up pending disposal by 2010 the last is the TK208 Dmitri Donskoy which is being used as a trials submarine, however TK20 Severstal and TK13 Simbrisk remain active all are based at Zapadnya Litsa.

When construction was approved The typhoons were to number 12 but only 7 were built (7th being broken up before completion).

A sobering note is that these submarines have enough nuclear warheads to destroy europe (main citys and towns), due to START and SALT treatys the number of warhead carried have been reduced to 200 per boat.

Up untill 1998 all the typhoon submarines names and penant numbers remained a state seacret.

In essence the OK-650B has been surpassed that reactor is now far obsolete and is only kept on the submarines because they only have a few more years to go before they retire, the eldest submarine being over 30 years old and the youngest nearing 20.
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LuftWolf



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Sorry, Blair, Neal got your ass good. Thumbs Up Rotfl Rotfl Rotfl
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Kapitan



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got my arse no way man i love my avatar in fact he done me a favour, ive wanted an avatar change for a long long time.
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LuftWolf



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, at least everyone knows now just who they are dealing with. Cool Laughing
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TLAM Strike



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OneShot wrote:
You know reading that a dived Typhoon displaces as much as a WW2 Carrier is one thing, but looking at this big mo**erfu*ker is one hell of an argument that that statement is true.


Yorktown Class CV (as built 1937) Vs. Typhoon SSBN
25,500 tons full load
809.5 feet long (761 WL)
109.5 feet wide (83.25 WL)

26,500 Tons Submerged
562.7 feet long
80.7 feet wide
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Kazuaki Shimazaki II



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kapitan wrote:
In essence the OK-650B has been surpassed that reactor is now far obsolete and is only kept on the submarines because they only have a few more years to go before they retire, the eldest submarine being over 30 years old and the youngest nearing 20.


So what are they going to, still the KPM (whatever THAT means)?
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Molon Labe



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oneshot, is that one of the officer's images from PTO II?
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