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mapuc
Joined: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 103 Location: south sweden
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject: SHIV- only one thing comes to my mind |
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I think we all know what has happen to SHII, when SHIII came out. Wonder if the same is gonna happen with SHIII, when SHIV hits the desk
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Torplexed
Joined: 25 Dec 2001 Posts: 1194 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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SH2 and SH3 shared the same subject matter: The German U-Boat campaign in the Atlantic. If the subject of SH4 is the American (or Allied) submarine campaign in the Pacific there are some who won't be interested in picking it up because they feel historically the Pacific campaign wasn't as much of a challenge for a virtual submarine captain as it's Atlantic counterpart. On the other hand there will be those who would never touch a U-Boat simulator who will be more than happy to play skipper of a USN boat.
And then there those who won't switch because they feel Allied subs just aren't as sleek and cool as the German ones. It all comes down to taste I guess. |
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Sailor Steve
Joined: 22 Nov 2002 Posts: 5433 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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There are also a few who will be ecstatic; they didn't like the idea of playing *Nazis*, or they just didn't want to sink British and American ships.
Me, I just want to run a sub, and I think the Pacific campaign will be a nice bit of variety, plus a return to the glory days of SHI.
As to mapuc's original question: I dropped SHII as soon as SHIII came out, but mainly because of the former's lack of dynamic career mode. Unless SHIV is a whole new game and several orders of magnitude better, I'm betting people will play both, as SHIV looks to be similar except for the location. |
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Rosencrantz
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 280
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Well. I would like to see it to be Pac this time. And I'm not even american. Read the books writen by Edgar L. Beach and you'll find out, Pac is that doll. |
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Rosencrantz
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 280
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, somehow I miss (for example) TDC, which can do tracking. USN had it, Germans didn't. |
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Rosencrantz
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 280
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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And again, it's a long time we got SH in Pac. Have to be ten years or something. Now we have exellent Atlantic campaign based game in SHIII + mods availible and coming, so why should they (Devs) do it third time? |
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-Pv-
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 12
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'm one of those who has been waiting for MANY years for a modern graphics PACIFIC sub theater. Can't wait to take on those carrier fleets and the titanic sea battles that occured over thousands of miles and hundreds of famous islands. I'll be standing in line to buy it and will pay whatever they ask for it. To recreate those epic experiences with up-to-date graphics is LONG over due. I bought SHII (though I enjoyed Pacific Aces more) and III and enjoyed them, I still long after Silent Service which let me rome all over the Pacific in thousands of hours of never-ending entertainment.
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finchOU
Joined: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 486
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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I think the biggest question on everyone's mind would be how far from the tree will SH4 fall from SH3. What really are they going to do to change the sim...to improve it?? Me personally the Pacific is new to me (never played the original SH) and would be a nice change of scenery....but I really could care less unless they FIX KNOWN BUGS and IMPROVE on the sim they have. Other wise....SH4 is just SH3 with makeup (BOOOO!). When news starts flowing about SH4....I really hope the Community gets some basic questions anwsered on how SH4 will improve on SH3 (other than aesthetics). Sooooo much can be improved on the great sim that SH3 is. |
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kc23
Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 77
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:23 am Post subject: |
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Count me as one who will be standing in line to buy when it comes out. I'd buy it if there weren't any improvements over SHIII at all. My guess is both will be able to run together, but perhaps that is wishful thinking. |
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Capt. Nemo
Joined: 27 Mar 2002 Posts: 91
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: |
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Loved SH, I liked and played SH II a lot.
Bought SH III and did not know about Starforce when I bought it from Subsim so never played it. It is still up there on the shelf.
I have been taken once but not again.
If SH IV has Starforce I will not buy it, if it does not I will.
I still play SH I and the Pacific is a great place to play Submarine. |
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Uber Gruber
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 126
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:38 am Post subject: |
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What a shame, UBI really had a chance to produce a killer of a game with SHIV but latest announcements reveal it to be a rehash of SHIII with "some" improvements.
So no wolfpacks then, no milk cows, nothing new really....just SHIII all over again but in the pacific.
SHAME! :nope: |
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Rosencrantz
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 280
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Well, Uber, who is telling you there won't be anything really new? I think, UBI has learned a lot with SHII and III. There is many other things than wolfpacks and milkcows which are actually "terra incognito". Like ship interaction, crew interaction, interaction between boats and HQ, boats vulnerability models, boats behavior, crew management, system management and so on. I hope Devs will be more interested in to bring awesome new features into players boat. And who has actually said there won't be any wolfpack action, or at least AI controlled friendly subs?
I'm optimistic. Devs have to know also how much work has been done by SHIII moderators. Let's see what will happen.
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donut
Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 178 Location: Chaparral,NM.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Liveing for the day,SHIV :sunny: :sunny: :gulp: |
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STEED
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 1671 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:38 am Post subject: |
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I am counting the days. :sunny: |
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Torplexed
Joined: 25 Dec 2001 Posts: 1194 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Uber Gruber wrote: | So no wolfpacks then, no milk cows, nothing new really....just SHIII all over again but in the pacific.
SHAME! :nope: |
The US Navy never used mikcows. Sub tenders on occasion perhaps. |
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