[Kapitan]

If that transponeder was working then the plane could have been enguaged long before it crashed into the pentagon saving alot of lives.

I think that all civil aircraft should have a transponder that is activated by the airport they leave rather than doing it themselves so ATC can make absolutly sure its not doing something that it shouldnt be.

[timmyg00]

Am I stoned, or am I not seeing any discussion about the original topic of the post?

This is a gold mine of naval discussion, tactical discussion, scenario building... and maybe even... mod discussion...

come on y'all!

TG

[The Bandit]

Just thought I'd like to mention that I think it was about 3 or 4 years ago that the americans had an expirimental supercavitation weapon in the works. DARPA is into all sorts of intereting stuff that we'll probably never hear about. The russians plan for shkval-II seams to make the most sense though. I forget where I heard about it but apparently, the russians want to make a next-generation super-cavitating torpedo that will supercavitate towards its target at 300 or so knots, then slow down to speeds simular to a normal torpedo (say 30-50 knots) and aquire its target on active sonar, then speed up again and super cavitate to its target. While not fool-proof (I bet active countermeasures could conceviably throw it off) this makes a lot more sense that just shooting an unguided 300 knot supercavitating bullet.

[Orm]

[DivingWind]

So much for stealth technology

[goldorak]

[OKO]

the most funny thing is Iranian pretend the new underwater missile to be stealth at sonar !
I can imagine how a rocket motor could be stealth underwater

One very impressive thing from iranian is also the fly boat :

http://inbrief.threatswatch.org/2006/04/irans-stealth-advances-the-ira/

If Iranian mix them, this could be a nasty combinaison !

[timmyg00]

[Kapitan]

To be honest, its over glamoured, if this weapon is anything like the russian built skhval there realy isnt alot to worry about.

The kilo's cant load it out because the tubes are not designed for them and never have been (unless that was why they sent them for upgrade).

The new submarines as xabba said are nothing more than glorified sang O's ie very small submarines and id doubt they could loud out this weapon it would be A too big B to advanced C take up too much space and personaly id say they would have to enlarge the submarine from the pictures i have seen.

As for ship launched via a missile boat, well im sure that one of thier PTG isnt going to get any closer than 30 miles to a CVBG especialy if they have an aegis ship in it, the iranians will be blown out of the water longbefore they got into range.

The missile torpedo itself, eats fuel and will have an max range of only 10 or 11 miles at tops. even at 200knots the torpedo cant use sonar its straight runningso a ship only has to turn.

Fire it from a submarine well bit like going to mount everest with the worlds loudest megaphone and screaming down it at the top of your lungs, you will inform everyone in the entire persian gulf if not further that you are there.

[LuftWolf]

My dad just called me to watch out for Iranians bearing super sonic stealth torpedoes... (No not really...)

The F117 is so first gen...

(Quickies...)

So t, you want Iranian subs to fire Squals now, eh? Well... the problem with that is there is no evidence any subs or ships currently in the Iranian Navy are capable of firing Squals... I can't justify giving them to the Iranian Kilos, because wouldn't it then make sense that the Russian Kilos would be able to fire them already? :hmm:

I think this is just a bunch of blustering two bit crap...

[LuftWolf]

[timmyg00]

[LuftWolf]

Well it certainly is...

Perhaps I just find this to be a particularly amusing claim for the Iranians to make, and I can just imagine the many many exchanges between Russian and Iranian negotiators to get a few Squals to fire off into the ocean at nothing in particular at some randomly appointed time.

[LuftWolf]

[goldorak]