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GunnersMate
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 Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:28 pm Post subject: Air dropped torps and Shallow waters |
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Air dropped torpedos sink in the mud if the water depth is 80 ft or so.  Is this a bug or a feature?  :hmm: My leanings are to bug because real life dropped torpedos use chutes.  Also WW2 air dropped torpedos did not do this (at least not 100% of the time)  |
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goldorak
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| You have to use lightweight torpedos and launch them at low altitude. |
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GunnersMate
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| goldorak wrote: | | You have to use lightweight torpedos and launch them at low altitude. |
lightweight - as opposed to Mk38? and is 50 ft low enough? |
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goldorak
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| GunnersMate wrote: |
lightweight - as opposed to Mk38? and is 50 ft low enough? |
50 ft is surely low enough, on the p-3 you can carry only mk-46 and mk-50.
Maybe you are not setting the "depth" variable accordingly prior to launch.? |
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GunnersMate
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| goldorak wrote: | | GunnersMate wrote: |
lightweight - as opposed to Mk38? and is 50 ft low enough? |
Maybe you are not setting the "depth" variable accordingly prior to launch.? |
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Kazuaki Shimazaki II
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Air dropped torps and Shallow waters |
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| GunnersMate wrote: | | Air dropped torpedos sink in the mud if the water depth is 80 ft or so. Is this a bug or a feature? :hmm: My leanings are to bug because real life dropped torpedos use chutes. Also WW2 air dropped torpedos did not do this (at least not 100% of the time) |
Feature. They use chutes, but that means they enter the water vertically - AFAIK a WWII torp is hits the water more or less on its belly, so the pre-stabilization dip may well be less. |
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Kapitan
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| The Jap's launched torps in pearl harbour and its what not far over 40 feet deep. |
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TLAM Strike
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Air dropped torps and Shallow waters |
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| GunnersMate wrote: | | Also WW2 air dropped torpedos did not do this (at least not 100% of the time) |
Some Russian ones did. One used three so I could be droped from High Alt.  |
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PeriscopeDepth
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Kapitain wrote: | | The Jap's launched torps in pearl harbour and its what not far over 40 feet deep. |
IIRC they made their torps able to be used in very shallow water specifically for Pearl Harbor. |
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OneShot
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Check the CADC for that ... I posted way back how to drop them in low waters. Nevertheless even with chutes and all you are dropping something that is pretty heavy compared to a human for example at speed so a bit depth would be nice ... I think as it is it's ok. |
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GunnersMate
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| So basically a sub can stay in waters less than 80 ft and laught at any Seahawks or Orions? Is this limitation there for AI ? |
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Kapitan
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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you can use shallow water to your advantage in a game i recently played i was in deep water and managed to run into shallow water it got so shallow i surfaced.
Torpedo hit the mud as it couldnt get up the under sea mounds to get me. |
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NastyHyena
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Shallow water plays hell on air-dropped ANYTHING. Although, in the P3 you can compensate by flying low (as mentioned) and fast. 50', throttles to the firewall, which causes the torpedo to have a flatter trajectory when it splashes.
For helo's...er..hover with your belly in the water? :hmm: |
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GunnersMate
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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I just made a mission where ownship was a kilo in shallow water <25m. Had a P-3, MH-60, SH-60B and SH-60F running searches in 10 mile box with me in center. I surfaced and watched on truth. All at once they turned towards, got within torpedo range and dropped all their torpedos into the mud!  I let buzz me and then I blazed them all out of they sky with trusy SA-14!  |
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BigBadVuk
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| Oh boy i have some debts to collect among them(especialy P-3) so...can u upload that mission :know: |
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