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GlowwormGuy



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:59 pm    Post subject: Italian built Reply with quote

Hi to the Betasom team,

Any chance that perhaps you guys will be doing old style ships like the cruiser San Giorgio at Tobruk or ships that are Italian built like the Giorgios Averoff or the Thai cruiser Naresuan (w/c became the Italian cruiser Etna)?

Just wondering,
Mountbatten
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willi



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: Italian built Reply with quote

GlowwormGuy wrote:
Hi to the Betasom team,

Any chance that perhaps you guys will be doing old style ships like the cruiser San Giorgio at Tobruk or ships that are Italian built like the Giorgios Averoff or the Thai cruiser Naresuan (w/c became the Italian cruiser Etna)?

Just wondering,
Mountbatten


I have reported your suggestion to ours excellent but absent author 3D.
Hi
Willy
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GlowwormGuy



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:54 pm    Post subject: Thanks very much Willi Reply with quote

Really looking forward to anything Betasom builds. You guys are great!

Right now I'm making do with the Kent type cruisers for the Averoff - they're actually a pretty close match - and if it were possible to just add four secondary twin turrets and redo the superstructure of the Kent...

Here's hoping,
Mountbatten
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Canarb



Joined: 14 Sep 2002
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

san Giorgio is in my heart Wink
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GlowwormGuy



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:45 am    Post subject: sister sister Reply with quote

Well, hope to see it sailing sometime. The Greek armoured cruiser Averoff was the sister ship of the Italian cruisers Pisa and Amalfi. Right now I'm just using the Norfolk to stand in for it but it doesn't have those four 7.5 twin turrets.

Hoping for some of those sweet old school ships someday!

Mountbatten
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GlowwormGuy



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:36 am    Post subject: Capitan Romani Class Reply with quote

Are these in the works? Which present ships would be a good looking substitute for these would you think?

Many thanks,
Mountbatten
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GlowwormGuy



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:14 am    Post subject: Italian built Reply with quote

Here are some great views of these fine Italian built warships:

http://warships.web4u.cz/lode.php?language=&stat=SIA&typ=TRA&trida=Trad

I was thinking if you guys were already doing Ariete perhaps a version of the Ariete with no turrets just guns would be similar to Trad.

Also the design of the Etna/Naresuan class is quite similar to the Capitan Romani.

http://warships.web4u.cz/lode.php?language=&stat=ITA&typ=CLA&trida=Etna

Kudos on the Gabbiano! That's a sweet boat!

Mountbatten
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JapLance



Joined: 03 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:20 am    Post subject: Re: Italian built Reply with quote

GlowwormGuy wrote:
Kudos on the Gabbiano! That's a sweet boat!


Just installed it into my DC folder and really looks amazing.

I have one question though. There are many UDF's which seem to be all exactly the same except for one field:

Flag= 1,2,3 and so on up to 9.

What does this mean?.
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Bruno Lotse



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
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Location: HMCS Toronto (K 538)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By changing this Flag parameter you can change nationality of the ship. The model would fly the colors of the country which correspond to values 1.2.3 etc. Try it. Historically, after 09.43 some Gabbiano corvettes were taken over by Kriegsmarine and became German T class, after the war some became French, others - Soviet ships (WW2 reparations). It's one of the great features of SH2/DC - customization.

Hey, ask Mountbatten, should he have time he can do magnificent repaints the ships. He could make you German T out of Italian Gabbiano Rock
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GlowwormGuy



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the plug Bruno and yes I can (would love to!) do a repaint of the Gabbiano if you'd give me the colors or samples. I'm actually planning to use the old Gabbiano (DC version) as the German Vorpostenboote - I know should have a longer slimmer funnel - and I got a few new things kicking around in the cruiser category, repaints all though.

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JapLance



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had tried only in the viewer and there I could see no changes.

After setting up a quick mission in the game itself, now I've realised that penant numbers change with every different UDF, but not the flag itself: they're all waving Italian flag.
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Bruno Lotse



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Mountbatten

Sure.
Here is wartime Gabbiano in color

Another Gabbiano

Yet another


These are color schema for NTP Orsa. Yet the same colors were applied to Gabbiano as well.


Here are color schema in color using NCL Scipione Africano (Class Capitani Romani)


and now NCL Duca D'Aosta


This is German WWI veteran T class in Mediterrenian camo. T-3 actually


Here's German starndard German T in the North Sea camo 'Kondor' and 'Falke'. Vorpostenboote should be in the same colors. Lots of them were just converted peacetime fishers. Wink


Cheers,
Bruno

O Mamma mia! What is that in my scope - Italian built?

:huh:
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Scorpio U-1000



Joined: 31 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
These are color schema for NTP Orsa


A previews of Orsa... in progress:




Quote:
By changing this Flag parameter you can change nationality of the ship


With the Orsa for example, changing the flag you can change the name of ship:

Orione, Orsa, Procione, Pegaso

Wink

PS: we are not in Betasom anymore Rolling Eyes


www.forum.maricosom.net

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Bruno Lotse



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Mamma Mia! Looking good, veeeeery good!
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GlowwormGuy



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:31 pm    Post subject: Vorposten done Reply with quote

I'll do the ratty rusty one as the Vorpostenboot and use your camo for the T version.

Thanks very much Bruno,
Mountbatten
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