[TDK1044]

Many people will have many different ideas about what SH1V should contain. I think the DEVS learnt a lot from SH111 and some of these ideas will find their way into SH1V anyway, but I would suggest that a small group of trusted moderators from SH111 compile a document that includes a list of desired additions and improvements to enhance SH1V prior to its 2007 release. It's not possible to please all of the people all the time, but it is possible to prevent having to issue 4 or 5 patches in the first three months of release of SH1V. If we get this right, SH1V will be the best subsim ever built, and who knows, Ubisoft may then revisit the Atlantic for SHV.

[Drebbel]

That has been done several times. Just before work on the 1.4 patch started the last (afaik) "buglet" inventory was made. We just made an inventory of the stuff SubSim visitors found the most annoying.

And I know various people, including some well respected SubSimmers have been in contact with the dev-team, after playing/testing early versions of SHIII, on numerous occaisions. Several of their suggestions/ideas/comments made it to the final release of the game. They continued to provide their contructive comments and ideas while the patches where being developped.


Regarding the inventory mentioned in the first paragraph: The results where:

Place - Item - Points
1 Watch Officer does not automatically go back to the Bridge when resurfacing 28
2 Why only 8 km visibility ? 13
3 Flakguns have the same trechhold as the deckgun in bad weather although they are mounted higher 14
4 Battery recharge type XXI takes too long and they never get 100% full 17
5 Crew reports are usually too late (especially for aircraft), 95% of the time! Same with exit from Time Compression 10
6 Aircraft AI is way off and cannot bomb correctly 10
7 Some CTD issues and/or strange behavior with the Crew Management System 10
8 Pre-mission torpedo assignment bug where you can flip between options to get unlimited torpedo stocks. / Loading a Before Mission save game will not update the crew with medals, promotions, and qualifications, PLUS they are no longer available to assign. / Loading the After Mission save ALWAYS causes the next patrol grid to be the same as the previous one. 11
9 Blurry look of compass (con not read my course properly) and other gauges 9
10 Radar wheel shows contacts on wrong side of the boat 8
11 No wolfpacks 7
12 Petty Officers with no Machinist Qualification do not go to move to the Electric Engine Compartment when diving and do not move to the Diesel Engine Compartment when surfacing 8
13 Raising the periscope breaks Hyrophone contact with any ships in view. 9
14 Weather not variable enough / Not realistic for time of year and location 9
15 Horribly bugged IXD/2 (disappearing torpedoes, stuck in sub pen, destroyed sonar) 9
16 C2 cargo too strong 9
17 Want to man guns in bad weather 9
18 Lack of history in the campaign 8
19 Reloading external torpedoes should require a calm sea and a stationary Uboat. If interrupted I should lose the torpedo. 8
20 Watch crew does not spot clearly visible (also the case in fog) ships 5
21 Massive fps hit near (empty) ports 5
22 Guns and depth charges of destroyers too accurate 5
23 Repairs are too fast 5
24 U-boat deck/flak gun too powerfull 4
25 Crew fatigues to quickly / Officers recover to slowly. / Need (verbal) warning when crew is getting tred 3
26 Lack of radio messages of any kind. 3
27 Can not run decks awash with lookouts on the bridge 3
28 Enemy ships shooting at eachother 2
29 Shuffle option for Gramophone music 5
30 More random damage, also to vital systems 5
31 No depth info on map 2
32 We can run engines at Flank speed indefinately without any chance of mechanical breakdowns. 6
33 Only 1 type of barrel depth charges modelled 6
34 Watch crew does not automatically take rain coats on/off 6
35 Option to disable friend or foe colours on the nav-map. 6
36 No real crew on surface ships 5
37 Ship spotted messages without bearing 5
38 Torpedo reload type XXI 5
39 Weather still seems to be completely independant of time of year and geographical location 5
40 Reversing engines often throws the rudder off to one side. 5
41 No thermal layers? And/or way to measure them (water tap inside boat) 5
42 Why only 1 prop turning when recharging batteries ? 5
43 Crewmen other than the CE will remain in "panic mode" animation, even when they are no longer being attacked. 5
44 Radar Antenna Destroyed bug. 5
45 Sleeping flakgunners 4
46 Airconsumption type XXI 4
47 No creep motors type XXI 4
48 Torpedo mates bunks are in the torpedo rooms, so they should rest in there while not working 4
49 No German Navy 4
50 Ships accelarate too fast, like they have jet engines 4
51 Interval between pressing crash dive button and the sound sample should be virtually zero 4
52 Re-supply at sea (milch cows and or surface ships) 4
53 Lighthouse shine their light through solid objects 4
54 Why are merchants only zig zagging after they spotted me ? 4
55 There is no number three officer 3
56 Flashing interior lights in type IX boats 3
57 Merchant ship size should be randomized 3
58 Various meters, dials and repeaters still screwed up in Control Room and other Stations 3
59 The current "ruler" in the nav-map is way too imprecise 3
60 Hard to grab waypoints on plot tool 3
61 TDC Bearing Input Instrument imposible to be set at exact bearing. Inner dial can not be adjusted with precision. 3
62 Need to be able to set watch rotations for crew management 3
63 Warped sky texture directly above uboat 3
64 Can not command the sub with out a keyboard 3
65 Non raisable radar type XXI 2
66 Switch time between engines on dives (5sec. and counting)... Unlike when surfacing, hardly feel the switch. 2
67 Weapons Officer firing solutions are much too quick and always 100% accurate. Should be tied to his experience level. 2
68 All ports (enemy and friendly) have no ships in them 2
69 Severly reduced frame-rate when the periscope view goes blury (w/ an ATI Radeon X700 card). 2
70 TDC dials too small 2
71 Advanced radar sets in wrong place 1
72 Flakgunners not able to shoot at waterborne targets 1
73 2 conning tower hatches in Type II (both with no ladder) 1
74 Need key to open all tubes 1
75 Watch crew won't call when a friendly ship spotted 1
76 Water reflections of all boats except type VII still broken 1
77 Why aren't all views unstabalized at 100% realism setting ? 1
78 Strong winds and high seas are sinking small ships. 1
79 No "Invert Mouse" option. 1


Imho good beta testing by a bigger team could have tackled a lot of these problems. But of course we do not know how many of these ""roblems" where already known to the dev-team before the release, I hope most of them where not

[Safe-Keeper]

[TonyPiech]

What I disliked the most in SH3 was the continual monitoring and moving of crewman who were tired/exhausted. I realize that this could be adjusted by changing values in certain files, however it would be nice if an automatic rotation of crewman could be implemented. The automatic rotation could/should be structured to allow the captain to over-ride as he wishes.

[finchOU]

Hey Drebbel...just copied and paste your post to a note pad file which I saved on my desktop...just so I can really put all of the problems of SH3 in perspective..........really strikes the nail on the head about SH3 IMHO!!..BRAVO ZULU!!!

[VON_CAPO]

Indispensable!!!!
Type XIV "MILK COW"
And associated missions for them.



Also a AI coordination for wolfpacks in single player and campaign.

The Luftwaffe must explore the ocean too.

Fluid communication by radio (with ability by the AI to answer something intelligent, not non sense phrases like now), the morse code BACK!!!

A acurate map with the current deep.

Get lost in the ocean because my navigator can not see the sun and the stars when it is stormy.

A device to transmit light signals.

A pistol to fire flares.

SNOW and ice in winter!!!

Life boats, debris and survivors swimming. With the capacity to fire flares when they spot some vessel.

I want that the rain and snow match the direction and intensity of the wind.

Big warships should engage in a fight beyond the horizon. It is not real at all the 8 km limit.

[VON_CAPO]

Ability to fill independent ballast tanks and fine regulation of the dive planes.

Ability to choose when I want to use diesels or electric engines.

A realistic damage control, because the current repair stuff to the light speed.

A watch officer and company awaken, because the current is blind, deaf and may be in drugs and drunk.

The possibility to finish my 1945's patrol in some Argentinian harbour. Somebody should be there to hand over my boot.

Traffic in the South Atlantic too.

[sam0t]

Excelent list Drebbel!

I dare to say that with those problems fixed, SHIII would have been perfect. In my mind atleast.

[johnlax]

Yes guys by all means lighten up on the crew management stuff. At least gives the player an option to have it done automatic or toggle off the requirement it really takes away from the game as it is in SH3.

[Dogsbd]

[turnerg]

i have something that would make SH4 awesome....

MAKING DC SEQUEL FIRST!!!!!!

[Takeda Shingen]

Snow and ice may not be such a big deal in the South Pacific.

[Dogsbd]

[DeerHunter UK]

[Takeda Shingen]

Ah, picture it: Pulling out of port in Pearl. It's January. The snow-covered palm trees sit blissfully still. How picturesque.