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Tonnage_Ace
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| I just hope they release the SDK along with it, show the mod community some support*ahem*Half Life 2 anyone? |
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AceChilla
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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I hope they spend all the development time on perfecting the gameplay, graphics are nice but what keeps a game great to play for years is great gameplay.
So please no new engine. Just perfect SH3, make it so we can move through the whole sub, put in wolfpacks, milkcows, bases, a random campaign with great exiting individual missions in between. I could go on and on 
Man I hope they do that, but it's already great they are making another subsim of course.  |
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Tonnage_Ace
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| AceChilla wrote: | I hope they spend all the development time on perfecting the gameplay, graphics are nice but what keeps a game great to play for years is great gameplay.
So please no new engine. Just perfect SH3, make it so we can move through the whole sub, put in wolfpacks, milkcows, bases, a random campaign with great exiting individual missions in between. I could go on and on
Man I hope they do that, but it's already great they are making another subsim of course. |
Amen. If the date is set at Q3 2007, anyone who's in the game business knows that, that date is for the team...to light a fire under their butt. 13/14 months is not enough time to write an engine from the ground up, unless they license out an engine from another company. They could however, make alterations or enhancements to the existing engine to make it at least bareable for the 2007 gamer crowd(anyone see Crytec's new engine?). The only changes I think they'll make however are volumetric clouds and maybe soft shadows or improve the water reflections to compliment the changes in the video card market.
They'll push the date back, but not by more than say 3-6 months, depending on whether or not the company sees any extra money in doing so. SH3 was one of the better looking games of 2005, in sim terms but also other genres as well. Judging from the graphical differences of SHII and SH3, it's obvious that Ubi created the SH3 engine for the next couple games, at least.
My prediction is that SHIV will be a slight improvement, in graphic terms, over SH3, but a compromise in gameplay/features terms. |
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Neal Stevens
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| Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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After getting some info on what Ubisoft plans to accomplish with SH4, I've moved my release date estimate up to Q1 2007.
They've just launched work, so if things go according to plan (which does not always happen), sometime between end of 2006 and middle 2007. Estimate will firm up with the beta milestone. |
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2019
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| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:30 am Post subject: |
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| Neal Stevens wrote: | After getting some info on what Ubisoft plans to accomplish with SH4, I've moved my release date estimate up to Q1 2007.
They've just launched work, so if things go according to plan (which does not always happen), sometime between end of 2006 and middle 2007. Estimate will firm up with the beta milestone. |
That's pretty quick.
I got not a good feeling that this will be a top noch quality product. |
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Neal Stevens
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| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| 2019 wrote: |
That's pretty quick.
I got not a good feeling that this will be a top noch quality product. |
That is, of course, a legitimate concern. SH3 set a top standard, I would not want to see SH4 fail to meet it. |
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Immacolata
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| rik007 wrote: | | Hopefully it means that SH-IV is serious for UBI. I do not hope that it means that everything will be done from scratch: research, graphics, engine etc, because then it means no wolfpacks, messy convoys, long wish-lists, halfway development and a release 'as such'. |
I seriously hope they WONT begin from scratch. Then we will just get another broken submarine simulator. I'd much rather have them build on the strengths of the SH3 engine. Augment it with the items we all craved, such as thermal layers, navigational tools for manual targetting, improved AI.
Only reason Id wish a new engine would be if they cannot change the visual range. If they pull another 8 kilometer visual range stunt, I won't buy it. Ever. |
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JU_88
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| Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| Relax! if modders were able to ajust the visual range to make it further than 8km, Im sure the devs willl have no problem. |
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Immacolata
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| IT depends how they have made SH3 engine. If they made it so awfully stupid that they had to limit it to 8 km in SH3, then theres no telling how theyll go beyond 25km. It could be trivial, it could be a real -spank me!- to fix. We don't know, but relaxed Im not! |
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bill clarke
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:36 am Post subject: Re: Release date Q3 2007, what does that imply ? |
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[quote="wetwarev7"] | Drebbel wrote: | Release date Q3 , 2007? How am I supposed to wait that long? Anyone got a extra time machine I can borrow?  |
Nah mines not working properly, tried to go back and save JFK, ended up getting shat on by a Brachiosaurus  |
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sober
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| IT means i will be exhausted of all anticipation and adreneline . |
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DeepSix
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| sober wrote: | | IT means i will be exhausted of all anticipation and adreneline . |
Meeeeee toooooo..... |
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Boris
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| Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:50 am Post subject: Re: Release date Q3 2007, what does that imply ? |
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| Drebbel wrote: | | Release date Q3 2007, what does that mean ? |
A looooong wait...  |
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Sailor Steve
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| Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Immacolata wrote: | | IT depends how they have made SH3 engine. If they made it so awfully stupid that they had to limit it to 8 km in SH3, then theres no telling how theyll go beyond 25km. It could be trivial, it could be a real -spank me!- to fix. We don't know, but relaxed Im not! |
They didn't have to limit it to 8 km because it was stupid, they did it on purpose so lower level computers wouldn't have problems running it. It was 16 km possible from the beginning. That's why the modders could change it. |
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STEED
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: Re: Release date Q3 2007, what does that imply ? |
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| Boris wrote: | | Drebbel wrote: | | Release date Q3 2007, what does that mean ? |
A looooong wait... |
Well at lease I got SH3 to get on with until the great day when SH4 goes on sale.  |
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