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August
Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 1296 Location: Rhode Island
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:52 pm Post subject: Book review "U-Boat U977" by Heinz Schaeffer |
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Copyright 1952
Autobiography
English language first edition, hardcover, 260 pages
(A somewhat reluctant) Introduction by Nicholas Monseratt.
This is the story of Schaeffers wartime experiences as a Kriegsmarine Officer and U-boat Commander. It encompasses his career from his days as a naval cadet in 1938 until he surrendered the U-977 at Buenos Aries Argentina in August of 1945.
I had read this book many years ago but hadn't revisited the work since, until recently when i found a copy in a used book store.
For those unfamiliar with the work, Shaeffer does a good job of describing the trainining and every day life of the U-boat sailor during WW2. His account, primarily of U977s last voyage, was written for two main reasons. First because no one else had written on the subject (as of 1952) and second to dispel the persistant rumors his boat had been used to transport Adolf Hitler and other high ranking Nazis to safety in the closing days of the war.
I recommend it (if you can find a copy) to anyone interested in U-Boats and the men who fought in them. |
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Sailor Steve
Joined: 22 Nov 2002 Posts: 5433 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, it's a goodie. I reread it about once a year. |
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August
Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 1296 Location: Rhode Island
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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So someone has read this book.
What do you think about his story that he just wanted to surrender to an honorable opponent? I don't believe he smuggled Hitler of course but i find his reasons for going to Argentina a bit suspect. |
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Sailor Steve
Joined: 22 Nov 2002 Posts: 5433 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:31 am Post subject: |
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I don't know-I usually take people at face value, but you could be right.
What I like is the intro: "Don't believe the denials...these guys were all Nazis...but it's a good book anyway". |
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Torplexed
Joined: 25 Dec 2001 Posts: 1194 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Kinda funny. I bought my battered paperback copy at a used book store too...years ago. For a buck I believe.
I find the author's (Heinz Schaeffer) facts kinda suspect at times. For example on pages 66-67 he mentions being on watch on a U-Boat during Christmas Eve 1942 that ran into and sank an American destroyer during a storm. Yet I can find no record of any Allied destroyer that was sunk on Christmas Eve 1942. Maybe just one of those fog of war (or memory) events perhaps. |
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August
Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 1296 Location: Rhode Island
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Torplexed wrote: | Kinda funny. I bought my battered paperback copy at a used book store too...years ago. For a buck I believe.
I find the author's (Heinz Schaeffer) facts kinda suspect at times. For example on pages 66-67 he mentions being on watch on a U-Boat during Christmas Eve 1942 that ran into and sank an American destroyer during a storm. Yet I can find no record of any Allied destroyer that was sunk on Christmas Eve 1942. Maybe just one of those fog of war (or memory) events perhaps. |
Well he did say the destroyer hadn't spotted them and she went down immediately after being hit, so it's unlikely she could have got off a distress call. If radio silence procedures were being used, and i imagine they were, it's possible the DD was not missed for several days or even weeks.
On the other hand, his description in that same chapter (page 120 in my copy) of the U-boat which "all its engines put out of action by depth-charges, returned to base four months overdue, by sail", now that is very hard to believe. |
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August
Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 1296 Location: Rhode Island
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Sailor Steve wrote: | I don't know-I usually take people at face value, but you could be right.
What I like is the intro: "Don't believe the denials...these guys were all Nazis...but it's a good book anyway". |
Yeah you can just feel Monsarrats loathing in every word he writes. I guess with just 7 years having passed since VE day the wounds were still pretty fresh... |
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Torplexed
Joined: 25 Dec 2001 Posts: 1194 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | On the other hand, his description in that same chapter (page 120 in my copy) of the U-boat which "all its engines put out of action by depth-charges, returned to base four months overdue, by sail", now that is very hard to believe. |
Yeah....forgot about that one. Sounds like the guy read a few too many Horatio Hornblower novels. |
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August
Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 1296 Location: Rhode Island
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Torplexed wrote: | Yeah....forgot about that one. Sounds like the guy read a few too many Horatio Hornblower novels. |
Arrr... |
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Marcantilan
Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 134 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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I enjoyed the book years ago.
A friend of mine passed me an old copy signed by H. Schaeffer himself.
Well, I think it´s a good book, but its clearly written to excuse Herr Schaeffer from the accussations made in the late 40s: That he take Hitler to the Argentinian Patagonia after the war.
Or, to avoid suspicious reviews about the fate of the CL Bahia (and old Brazilian ship, lost for no reason AFTER the war ends)
So, sure it´s not an objetive book. Just one to avoid further inquiries. Some technical details, the use of schnorkel, the Uboots previously riden by Schaeffer, etc, sounds not true at least.
But damn good reading!
And H. Schaeffer surrender to Mar del Plata Submarine Base, 400 km south to Buenos Aires. The UBoote flag is still in the small base museum.
Partly OT, there´s a TON of books claiming Hitler escape in a sub and was seeing here in Argentina.
A fact... U 530 (surrender in MdP too) carried LOTS of cigarettes and champagne. A cargo sure for a VIP... |
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August
Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 1296 Location: Rhode Island
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know, cigarettes and champagne fall under the general nautical category of plunder, and a chance to score swag like that wouldn't have been passed up by any sailor I ever met, German or otherwise....
It's a good sea tale though written by someone who at least should have known what he was talking about. |
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Marcantilan
Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 134 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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For anyone really interested in the subject, I could only recommend the EBook"Submarinos Alemanes en Argentina".
You could download that masterpiece from the local sub community site at:
http://www.elsnorkel.com/esp/mediateca.asp |
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Floater
Joined: 14 Sep 2002 Posts: 2300 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 8:37 am Post subject: |
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It's a good book. This thread has prompted me to read it again. |
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Bertgang
Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 1031 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Marcantilan wrote: |
A fact... U 530 (surrender in MdP too) carried LOTS of cigarettes and champagne. A cargo sure for a VIP... |
A cargo for a VIP, but not for Hitler; he didn't smoke.
Maybe for one of several other nazist misteriously disappeared. |
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Captain Strangelove
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 16 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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It is really not too bad! Recently got an early edition on ebay. Hardcover, with an imprint (stamping?) of a snorkel covered with Alberich. I thought that was pretty nice!
Anyways, for one thing it is interesting as it lists the side effects of snorkeling for several weeks (mush everywhere!), but it also gives you an idea about the feeling of total helplesness in Germany early after the war.
If it had been published two or three decades later the author would have probably left most of those bitter feelings aside.
If you can get it, read it!
I am currently trying to get all first hand accounts by U-Boat or submarine servicemen. Will try to search this forum for a topic these days. There surely must be one!
Cheers
Kai |
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