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kc23
Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 77
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:07 am Post subject: Reading "Steel Boat, Iron Hearts", game question |
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Great read. Really a wonderful insight of life a board a U-boat as a crew member.
My question is this ... the book really opened my eyes to the air threat situation the U-boats faced. I had no idea it was that intense.
How is this modeled in game? We gonna have to deal with a realistic number of air attacks?
The book made it clear that these air attacks were anything but rare. They also really took its toll on the morale and fatigue of the crew.
How is this modeled in game? |
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Der Teddy Bar
Joined: 10 Jan 2002 Posts: 1360
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:07 am Post subject: |
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Here you will find a year by year, with a month by month breakdown of u-boat losses.
http://sbs/u-boats/index_uboat_losses.htm
In the end, aircraft claimed more u-boats than escorts. |
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kc23
Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 77
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:21 am Post subject: |
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The link is bad, but thanks for the thought.
What a great book to read right before getting the game. This should really help in the immersion as I really feel like a got a good snap shot (if you'll pardon the expression) of what it must of been like.
I'm a bit disappointed no one is around to answer the questions I have, but that is the way it goes at this stage of the game I guess.
I really was surprised to read just how important the air threat was in this cat and mouse game. I'm wondering how well this will be modeled in the game.
It also makes me wonder how in debth the morale factor is gonna be and what are all the variables to improve morale.
On U 505 some of the ways morale was improved was with giving the crew a rotation onto the bridge. Rewards for jobs well done were sometimes as simple as an extra scoop of desert, a touch of rum in their coffee.
I had often heard how extended periods of time on the surface during ruff weather brought down morale, but didn't realise just how bad it was for extended periods of time under the water.
Good stuff this book. |
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Der Teddy Bar
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hachiman
Joined: 25 Dec 2001 Posts: 722 Location: Edinburgh Jockland
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Read Iron Coffins by Herbert Werner.
The May 43 Part is amazing and shows you how quickly the U-Boat turned round from March 43 when it looked like the U-Boats were going to win.
They were diving 10-15 times a day to avoid Planes especially in the Bay of Biscay.
Don't think this will be modelled in the game as it would kill the playability. |
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U56
Joined: 22 Nov 2002 Posts: 196 Location: Rockall
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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AOD certainly modelled the increase in air cover very well as the war progressed. The game even modelled your increased chance of being detected by aircraft if you ran flank due your more visible wake. Escorts and aircraft with radar later in the war also found you sooner. I will be surprised and disappointed if SH3 does not include all this.
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Sarah
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 69
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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My understanding from speaking with Mr. Savas is that the game will indeed model the air threat better than any game in the past.
Thanks for your kind comments about Steel Boat, Iron Hearts. For those who enjoy either Steel Boat, Iron Hearts or Hunt and Kill, I would appreciate you taking a few moments to post a review on Amazon. In exchange, perhaps you could win a date with my avatar . . .
Sarah
sarahs@savasbeatie.com
www.savasbeatie.com |
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kc23
Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 77
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:08 am Post subject: |
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Wrote the review and gave it 5 stars. A very good read indeed. |
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Sarah
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 69
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks so much, Ken. We appreciate the support!
Next date anyone? Read the book, post a review, and we'll see what we can work out. =)
Sarah Stephan
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miller41 Guest
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:23 pm Post subject: book review |
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Thanks to your review I bought the book from amazon, it is on its way and I cant wait to read it. Have read Iron Coffins twice, have it in my collection |
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Sarah
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