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Jesper



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:13 am    Post subject: Ads Reply with quote

Flash banner on page is broken... there is only a whitebar and right clicking on it just says "Movie isnt loaded"

also a banner that is "725px" wide is waaaay over exaggerated.
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TLAM Strike



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:07 am    Post subject: Re: Ads Reply with quote

Well it works for me, but the size is a problem.
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Neal Stevens



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, that is the biggest banner I've ever seen Sad

Only one they sent me, though. It will rotate out in another week.
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Jesper



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well it doesnt work for me.

IMG REMOVED!

however it does work if I just play it from the source url. and I see a some typical "MSIE" line breaks in the code, which might be why FireFox wont play it.
Please note that line 2(codebase) and line 3(height) should be on line 1(object) as one long line.

Code:
<object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000"
codebase="http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=7,0,0,0" width="725"
height="90" id="Banner 725x90 01" align="middle">
<param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" />
<param name="movie" value="http://207.44.164.159/phpBB/templates/smartDark/Banner725x90_01.swf" />

<param name="quality" value="high" />
<param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff" />
<embed src="Banner 725x90 01.swf" quality="high" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="725" height="90" name="Banner 725x90 01" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" />
</object><br><b><font size="2" face="Verdana" color="#FFFF00">
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.battlefront.com/products/dw/order.html" style="text-decoration: none">
CLICK HERE FOR ORDERING DETAILS </a></font></b>


an example :
Code:
   <object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://active.macromedia.com/flash2/cabs/swflash.cab#version=4,0,0,0" id="flashlogo" width="400" height="100">
    <param name="movie" value="/tow_gfx/flash/flashlogo.swf" />

    <param name="quality" value="high" />
    <param name="loop" value="true" />
    <param name="wmode" value="transparent" />
    <embed src="/tow_gfx/flash/flashlogo.swf" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" width="400" height="100">
    </embed>
   </object>


Smile


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Dust



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mozilla based Thumbs Up

i only see the whitebar too
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Jesper



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right ON! Thumbs Up
I think its those 2 linebreaks.
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Neal Stevens



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firefox, that's the problem :know:
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Dust



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neal Stevens wrote:
Firefox, that's the problem :know:

no, the solution! Rock

Rotfl
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Neal Stevens



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, your solution seems to be having trouble, IE6 sees the flash banner just fine :know:
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Jesper



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IE is so fully patched up with all kinds of crapola that you can even stop using <table></table> around your <tr><td></td></tr> or add as many extra of one tag as you like and it will still show the page.

This is an result of MS over the years trying to make their own html standards and their efforts to show pages that people without any html knowledge has writen.

Even Mr. Subsim has to alter his MSIE centric course, as a fact of that MSIE is loosing the browser market fast.

Webmasters that only "supports" MSIE should be keel hauled Argh

The worst thing is extra linebreaks,
<img src=
../images/image,jpg
width=547 height=100 border=0 />
is simply not acceptable when the RFC says:
1: line
2: values must be quoted
3: alt="" must be present
<img src="../images/image,jpg" width="547" height="100" border="0" alt="" />
Thumbs Up Razz


Valueable resources:
http://validator.w3.org
http://www.w3schools.com:)
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Neal Stevens



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
This is an result of MS over the years trying to make their own html standards and their efforts to show pages that people without any html knowledge has writen.


That should be: This is a result of MS over the years trying to make their own html standards and their efforts to show pages which people without any html knowledge have written.


People who cannot spell or employ standard English grammar should be keelhauled.


Sorry, Jesper, my stats show that MS IE still makes up 82% of the visitors to Subsim. It has not been below 80% since 1998. Smug You FF flavor of the month users will just have to deal with it.

Extra line breaks? HTML ignores line breaks, when did this change? And alt has always been optional, as far I know. Just because IE is more tolerant of html errors and sloppy coding doesn't make it a bad browser.

Anyway, I don't claim to be an expert at html, I haven't handcoded in 6 years. Too time-consuming and not where the focus is. Ping


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Neal Stevens



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've removed the line breaks from the SmartDark template, is the flash banner working now?
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Dust



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

still dosnt work
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Jesper



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right html ignores UNIX type linebreaks but not MS type linebreaks (MS uses double breaks in some cases)

And yes English/Americans that can not do English grammar should be keelhauled, you can not force that upon the rest of the world, as not all of us has English as native language Wink hehe

alt="" was never optional (as far as I know), but most if not all browsers ignores it if it is missing, however the html protocol clearly states it has to be present.

I dont think any of us are entitled to call us self experts.
I write everything in KEdit (Linux Notepad), but I also look up help sources if needed. Smile

You stats shows 82% of the Subsim members are using MSIE, which is fine by me, it's a good browser, most people tend to stay with what ships with the operating system.
Im sure the future will change that. Wink

Ps. no the banner is still broken, and the answer is right here:
<embed src="Banner 725x90 01.swf" <--there is a space between r and 7 and assuming that you didnt put the swf file in /phpBB you should ../to_the_path_aswell Smile
In the <parm> tag you used the full url.
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XabbaRus



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I'm wrong....

Hmm very odd.
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