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Molon Labe
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Flash!!
Subsim goes PC.
Film at 11. |
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John Channing
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Ok folks, a gentle reminder. We are here to talk about Dangerous Waters. This is not the forum for political discussions.
Diver, there is a longstanding tradition of gentle kidding about the Collins class of submarines. None of it is meant, or meant to be, taken seriously.
Lets get back on topic so I don't have to move this topic elsewhere.
Thanks
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diver
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Location: Australia
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alright john, sorry for leading the topic elsewhere (i'll still defend the collins anywhere though).
i thought i heard somewhere that is was not possible for any SSN to bottom, is this true? why is it so? |
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TLAM Strike
Joined: 30 Apr 2002
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Location: Rochester, New York
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:21 am Post subject: |
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| diver wrote: | | i thought i heard somewhere that is was not possible for any SSN to bottom, is this true? why is it so? |
Generally that is true. There are vents for the rector on the bottom of the submarine that will draw in sand in to the reactor.
Some SSNs were modified to bottom to do "Sea Bed Operations" like USS Halibut. |
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Bograt
Joined: 03 Dec 2004
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Second silly sub question is: Why are they painted black? I would assume that some kind of low vis paint scheme would be more ideal.
Cheers, |
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Rip
Joined: 09 Nov 2004
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| Bograt wrote: | Second silly sub question is: Why are they painted black? I would assume that some kind of low vis paint scheme would be more ideal.
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Actually only the top half is black. The bottom is a redish rusty color. At least coming out of drydock. After a few months it changes to just a mucky crust. At least this was true with both of the boats I was on. |
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Looney11
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Good question actually, I think it has something todo with the history of the boats, but i'm not sure.
The part under the waterline is usually painted with an anti-fouling type of paint i think, just as any other vessel to prevent crustaecans (??), algea and so on to attach to the hull. |
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TLAM Strike
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| They are painted black to look like an area of deep water when viewed from the air. This doesn’t really work well in shallow water, and a few UK subs have had special shallow water cameo (Trenchant and an Oberon Class SS) to try and correct this. |
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Pigfish
Joined: 11 May 2003
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Location: Alberta, Canada
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Rip wrote: | | Actually only the top half is black. The bottom is a reddish rusty color. At least coming out of dry dock. After a few months it changes to just a mucky crust. At least this was true with both of the boats I was on. |
By "mucky" do you mean green? I read somewhere that US a boats anti-fouling paint turns greenish after awhile at sea.
I have a book with a drawing as such at home but never seen a actual photo of a "green" sub after a long patrol. :hmm: |
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compressioncut
Joined: 21 Jun 2003
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Location: Canada
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| Pigfish wrote: | | Rip wrote: | | Actually only the top half is black. The bottom is a reddish rusty color. At least coming out of dry dock. After a few months it changes to just a mucky crust. At least this was true with both of the boats I was on. |
By "mucky" do you mean green? I read somewhere that US a boats anti-fouling paint turns greenish after awhile at sea.
I have a book with a drawing as such at home but never seen a actual photo of a "green" sub after a long patrol. :hmm: |
When Victoria was put in the graving dock in Dockyard, she was absolutely disgusting. Covered in slime and assorted other seagrowth, it was tough to stomach walking past her due to the smell.
The same is true of any ship, though. "Anti-fouling" is really just fouling resistant. Huron was even more distgusting than Victoria, although she had been sitting since 2000. |
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