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Cool pics of USS Jimmy Carter

 
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Bill Nichols



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:30 pm    Post subject: Cool pics of USS Jimmy Carter Reply with quote

See them here:

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/080023.htm
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Neptunus Rex



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's one big boat!
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JSLTIGER



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That enlarged hull has got to make it louder and slower than Seawolf and Connecticut.
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Bill Nichols



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JSLTIGER wrote:
That enlarged hull has got to make it louder and slower than Seawolf and Connecticut.


Bigger (in this case, longer), does not necessarily mean louder.
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TLAM Strike



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well in terms of hull effect and active return it is less stealthy. But those factors are generally less an issue than reactor quieting ETC IIRC.
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MSgalileo



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Jimmy Carter is the new "Parche", designed for spy mission, they enlarged and add some extra space for special intel/recovery/delivery material.
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TLAM Strike



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that extra hull space is also for testing brand new tech that couldn't be tested before on smaller subs.

Of course that could be just the BS they tell to cover its Special Projects use. :hmm:
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Torpedo Fodder



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

12,000 tons submerged displacement: wouldn't that make the Jimmy Carter the world's largest SSN?
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Scion



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you include only SSNs then yes, it is the largest. If you include SSGNs and SSBNs then its not the largest.
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The Bandit



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigger could actually make it queiter, look at the Ohios, the bigger they are, usually the more room they have for rafting machinery, accustic inclosures, and if I'm not mistaken, accustic insolation. The only thing with the carter is that if what I heard innitially was correct, it was supposed to be USS Barracuda (when they were supposed to make a full run of Seawolf class, they were supposed to have acquatic names like Barracuda and Sailfish), and it was laied down as a regular Seawolf, and it was decided after construction was underway to lengthen it as a SPECIAL PROJECTS BOAT. I'm not sure if the lengthening was on the same scale as the George Washington (originally laied down as a Skipjack class SSN) because I don't think the 23 boat was as far along in its construction (supposedly they had to cut the hull of Washington to put the missile "plug" in) but that might counter the whole argument that there is more room for quieting, since Carter was laied down as a regular Seawolf. I'd say that SSN-23 would be at least as quiet as the Seawolf and Connecticut, possibly a little quieter since its a newer boat, and who knows what EB has come out with since it finished SSN-21 and 22 in the late 90s. I'd be interested to know if the source I had on the Jimmy Carter's history was correct (the fact that it was innitially laied down as a regular Seawold)
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