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HMS Astute readying
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XabbaRus



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep.

I think that makes sense...The CTOL Navy version (ie US NAVY one) should be used by the RN as a fleet defender and strike aircraft. Something that you need with CVs IMHO.

The RAF could use the V/STOL version for battlefield strike, the CTOL F-35 or a version of as a Tornado replacement..and Typhoon for multirole.
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JSLTIGER



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the thing though...the CVF's are going to be built WITHOUT catapults or arresting gear (though it will have the capability to have these installed in the future...so, even the F-35C would go crashing off of its deck and get up close and personal with the Atlantic. Therefore, the RN NEEDS to buy the F-35B VSTOL version to have functional capability.
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TLAM Strike



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WITHOUT... arresting gear (though it will have the capability to have these installed in the future...)

So the RN plans on having a guy run out on deck and grab the JSF by the landing gear to slow it down and haul it on deck like in the old days? Rolling Eyes Joking
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Oberon



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TLAM Strike wrote:
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WITHOUT... arresting gear (though it will have the capability to have these installed in the future...)

So the RN plans on having a guy run out on deck and grab the JSF by the landing gear to slow it down and haul it on deck like in the old days? Rolling Eyes Joking


Don't be silly!



What do you think happens to all those tennis nets when Wimbledon isn't on!! Rock Joking
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XabbaRus



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or how about they just install the arresting gear and catapults.
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Linton



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know why we dont buy oneof the non-nuc ones plus some f14s from the usn-it would be better than most of the competition and available NOWWhat has this got to do with Astute's though?
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TLAM Strike



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because those were built in the 1950s and 1960s. USS Kitty Hawk was laid down nearly 50 years ago, JFK 42 years ago. I know they kicked ass back in the day but do you really want a ship that old?
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Oberon



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess you'd have to look at upgrading, but then again you'd also have to look at the cost of upgrades vis a vis getting a new carrier with all mod cons fitted.
After all, look what the Canadians did with our Oberons! Thumbs Up
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JSLTIGER



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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oberon wrote:
TLAM Strike wrote:
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WITHOUT... arresting gear (though it will have the capability to have these installed in the future...)

So the RN plans on having a guy run out on deck and grab the JSF by the landing gear to slow it down and haul it on deck like in the old days? Rolling Eyes Joking


Don't be silly!



What do you think happens to all those tennis nets when Wimbledon isn't on!! Rock Joking



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