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JSalinger



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Location: Spokane, WA, USA

PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent shooting, Herr Kaleun!

Don't worry...Onkel Karl'll give you an Iron Cross for them anyway. Very Happy
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Loaf



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Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a slightly off-topic question prompted by this thread:

What countries ever operated true dreadnought battleships in the first place?

USA
UK
Germany
France
Japan

I know these ones for sure... Not sure if Italy ever had dreadnoughts? Any other countries missing?
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Saukko



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, what is the difference between dreadnoughts and battleships...

Italy had dreadnoughts, I believe. Russia had several dreadnoughts, large part of the Russian navy met her fate at Tsushima strait thought.
Austro-Hungary had also battleships, and one of those, the Szent István, is the only battleship besides HMS Barham, and USS Arizona whose sinking has been filmed. She was sunk by Italian torpedo boats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Szent_Istv%C3%A1n

You can view the video here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2558353157451992210&q=sinking&pl=true
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79TransAm



Joined: 02 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YES I finally got a BB. First patrol on my new campaign using U-boat war ace, at least i think its working? Any who i get notice of a task force like right near me, 30 game time mins later i get the first contact of the destroyer. I was thinking id see an escourt carrier because thats what i got the other time i got a task force. any who I am greated by a Nelson battleship. I thought it was kinda funny because i have done like 60 patrols and have never encounterd one and I have even gone out of my way to try and find one. Anywho. I got 4/5 fish on her and got her to tip over and sink. I then fired a shot at a J class destroyer that was behind it at 0Kts to avoid a collision and got him sunk as well. Well i then dove to about 115mtrs and almost hit the wreckage of the ship. It was very exciting Smile

I have 2 screen shots but i have no idea how to post em
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Sailor Steve



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saukko wrote:
Hmm, what is the difference between dreadnoughts and battleships...

There were no dreadnoughts at Tsushima.

Pre-Dreadnought battleships characteristically crowded all the armament they could on a relatively small hull, almost always having a turret at each end with two large guns (usually 11 or 12") and a number of smaller guns arranged on the sides.

HMS Dreadnought of 1906 was the first "all-big-gun" battleship, having five turrrets with two 12" guns each. Any battleship having only large guns and very small anti-torpedo-boat or anti-aircraft guns is by definition a "Dreadnought", though starting with the British Queen Elizabeth class (15" guns) the later ones are commonly refered to as "Super-Dreadnoughts", and include all big battleships from 1915 onward.
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Khayman



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Location: Scotland

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

79TransAm wrote:


I have 2 screen shots but i have no idea how to post em


It is exciting isn't it Very Happy

You can use http://imageshack.us/ which will host your pics for free, then the Img tag to post them. I look forward to em Argh
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79TransAm



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[img]http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bbsinking3tp.png[/img]




[img]http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bb28cc.png[/img]



Ummm Ok try this link
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5258/bb28eh.png
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Loaf



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding dreadnoughts vs. battleships:

In my post about what countries operated dreadnoughts I deliberately did not say "battleship" because that term covers capital ships that pre-dated the 1906 launch of HMS Dreadnought (after which all pre-Dreadnought battleships were rendered obsolete).

So my question refers to "modern" battleships - in other words, capital-class battleships whose main armament is contained in rotating turrets on the vessel's centreline - essentially, all the battleships ever launched since 1906.

I do not believe Russia ever operated true dreadnought battleships...
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Saukko



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mistake.

I searched and managed to find this site, that lists U.S. and other nations capital ships:
http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/battleships/
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Wulfmann



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russia did operate true Dreadnaught class battleships albeit not great ones they were of interest and one was sunk by the legandary Hans-Ulrich Rudel in WWII.
There were 7 total built all armed with 12 12 inch guns in 4 triple turrets on the center line and classed as dreadnaughts.

Wulfmann
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Dutch



Joined: 23 Jan 2005
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Location: United States

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was on the way to port from attacking some convoys in the BE quadrant. I was heading back around England when I got the radio contact of a warship. I just wanted to see what it was so I changed my course and headed towards it.

Alittle while later I recieved a more detailed report, it was not a single ship, it was a taskforce! i like to have poo poo myself seeing as I have never seen one and I have owned the game since its release. So I charged ahead at brake neck speed.

I soon recieved a ship spotted message and went to the bridge, on the horizon, smoke!

I ordered a course correction to what I believed would be the best point of intercept and continued to charge ahead. I got within 5000m and decided to dive, I identified at least 7 DDs, 5CLs, a Nelson and a Revenge. Needless to say I was very happy to see this monturous beauties, but was forced to allow them to live to fight another day.

They are there, you just have to find them, and catch up to them!
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ref



Joined: 21 Nov 2005
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Location: Mar del Plata, Argentina

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recieved a task force contact report 700 km off my position heading to the north of england, I made a few numbers, and I plot an intercept course, nearly missed them because they change course, but thanks to a fellow Kaleun that sent a report I was able to correct my mistake just in time to put my sub in a nearly perfect shooting position, less than 1000 meters 90 aob, as it was my first carrier I didn't want to miss it so I fired a 4 torps salvo...

I was getting a little fast so I've to hit the breaks...



While I was waiting I take a few pictures



First two impacts



Second two...



Running from the escorts



After four hours I decided to finish her off



Yahoo!!!





It wouldn't be complete without the sunset...



Without more news to report we returned to our patrol zone.

Ref
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Khayman



Joined: 20 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done! Great pics Argh

I've yet to see a Carrier so I'm slightly jealous. Make that extremely jealous Very Happy
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