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Raskil
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:45 am Post subject: FGG TMA |
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Hi,
i' m quite new to DW but i've played Sub Command and 688(l) Hunter/Killer for ages. As i got my DW some days ago i was very exited about the new feature to use the FGG 7. But as it turns out, i can't really use it, because i'm not able to opperate the TMA Board. Can anyone provide some infos how to operate the FGG 7 TMA board in a proficient fashion?
Greets
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sonar732
Joined: 03 Jul 2003 Posts: 1358
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:46 am Post subject: Re: FGG TMA |
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Raskil wrote: | Hi,
i' m quite new to DW but i've played Sub Command and 688(l) Hunter/Killer for ages. As i got my DW some days ago i was very exited about the new feature to use the FGG 7. But as it turns out, i can't really use it, because i'm not able to opperate the TMA Board. Can anyone provide some infos how to operate the FGG 7 TMA board in a proficient fashion?
Greets
Raskil |
Yeah...click the auto crew on the upper left...
I hate TMA! |
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Raskil
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Hehe, i love TMA, but only on Submarines. The FGG TMA ist some kind of Mystery to me. |
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goldorak
Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 393 Location: Milano,Italy
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Raskil wrote: | Hehe, i love TMA, but only on Submarines. The FGG TMA ist some kind of Mystery to me. |
I don't think there is anyone who uses manual tma on the frigate :hmm:
The real difficult part of the tma on the frigate is that you cannot zoom in and out like the tma on subs.
If the points go out of the board you have to start from scrap. |
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Raskil
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:58 am Post subject: |
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so, are you using your auto-crew, or some other technique? At the moment i generate my own solution by using variuos bouys an the ships sensors. So the TMA on the FGG seams almost useless. |
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goldorak
Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 393 Location: Milano,Italy
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Raskil wrote: | so, are you using your auto-crew, or some other technique? At the moment i generate my own solution by using variuos bouys an the ships sensors. So the TMA on the FGG seams almost useless. |
Yes, basically everything on manual except tma on the frigate.
Triangulation with sonobuoys is dirt and cheap so no nead to mess with manual tma.
Of course if the contact is outside the sonobuoys reach but not of your sonar than tma becomes relevant. |
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HydroShok
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 30
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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You can't zoom in too far or the paper will rip. You have to have ownship and the target visible at all times or else its a pain. So long story short, a slow speed ruler is impossible to see zoomed out (you cant see the hash marks). |
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GunnersMate
Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 225 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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I just narrow active and helo buoys. |
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Ultraboy
Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 152 Location: The Mysterious Canadas
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Initially, I took one look at the Perry's TMA, and promptly clicked autocrew.
However, after playing for a while, I just decided to do what I did to learn TMA all those years ago on SC. Just create a mission with you and one other contact in a random box with ROE set to "peace." After some fiddling around I started to get the hang of it, and just as with SC, found it quite rewarding just to pinpoint the target on my own, using only one sensor.
Now, having said that, I still use the autocrew in heavy traffic situations because, well, the TMA sheet can start to look like a spirograph pretty quick. But, often I will simply drop all the neutral contacts so I can just focus on those one or two subs out there. (Don't worry, I re-check any neutrals before firing!)
Anyway, my advice is, if you haven't spent any time on Frigate TMA before, take some time to experiment with it. You might find out you're good at it, and subsequently add another dimension to your game. |
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JamesT73J
Joined: 10 Jan 2002 Posts: 424 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Two words. 'Relative Bearing'. |
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GunnersMate
Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 225 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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JamesT73J wrote: | Two words. 'Relative Bearing'. |
ARGHH!!!!! |
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MaHuJa
Joined: 10 Jan 2002 Posts: 447 Location: 59.96156N 11.02255E
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:58 am Post subject: |
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My pet peeve about the ffg tma is that the lines are far too short. If I need TMA on a EW contact, it's outside 10nm. If I have a sonar contact that I need to track, it's definitely outside 5nm. (If it's inside, it's ID and torpedo control that takes time)
But no zoom (except at the place you were when the plot started) is also a real bother. |
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Wildcat
Joined: 10 Jan 2002 Posts: 438
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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The main issue is relative bearing (creates a lot of extra math), also the actual working of the interface is a little difficult (it can be hard to control the ruler and where the little dot goes). I generally leave autoTMA on and focus on other more important stuff, but sometimes if you need a fast and hard tma solution you gotta do it the manual way.. |
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