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XabbaRus



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:21 am    Post subject: UAVs and UCAVs Reply with quote

Would you like some more?

WE have predator but I was thinking of making that Firescout thing the RN is supposed to be getting and adding to to a few ships.

Any others?
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TLAM Strike



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about some target drones? Like the BQM-74F Chukar or any of the other Chukars.

Maybe one of the PRC or Russian UAVs?
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Bill Nichols



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Indian Navy just activated a squadron of Israeli UAVs.

Navy's first UAV squadron in place

"The Indian Navy is among the first few in the world to induct Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) which enhance the force's surveillance capability, the Chief of Naval Staff, Admiral Arun Prakash has said.

He was speaking after commissioning the first UAV Squadron (Indian Naval Air Squadron 342 comprising 12 Israeli-built Herons and Searcher Mark IIs)..."

(includes photo)

http://www.hindu.com/2006/01/07/stories/2006010706441200.htm


Also,

Israel Sells Heron UAVs to India, Australia

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2005/11/israel-sells-heron-uavs-to-india-australia/index.php


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Bill Nichols



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: UAVs and UCAVs Reply with quote

XabbaRus wrote:
Would you like some more?

WE have predator but I was thinking of making that Firescout thing the RN is supposed to be getting and adding to to a few ships.

Any others?



Photo Release -- Northrop Grumman's Navy Fire Scout Gets Its Sea Legs, Completes First Autonomous Ship Landings

http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/060118/92452.html


But, if you really want something neat, try this:

Cormorant Submarine/Sea-Launched & Recovered Multi-Purpose Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (MPUAV)

http://www.darpa.mil/tto/programs/cormorant.htm
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XabbaRus



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the Fire Scout, the RN I think has evaluated it too

I wonder if I make it it could be added to the FFG-7 would probably only work for AI OHPs though Sad

I once had a very good 3 view of the Fire Scout with lots of dimensions on it. Wonder if anyone could help me out.
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MSgalileo



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be difficult to make a 3dmodel of the Coromorant !






Multi-purpose vehicle with folding wings would be fired from ex-Trident missile tubes

Lockheed Martin has revealed new details of its submarine-launched and recovered multi-purpose UAV (MPUAV) proposal as it embarks on a two-year study of the concept with the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).

The MPUAV concept, built around a compact 450kg (1,000lb) payload vehicle with folding wings, is likely to merge downstream with the newly revealed morphing UAV project, says senior project engineer Robert Ruszkowski.

Intended to be launched from the missile tubes of a converted Ohio-class submarine, the MPUAV is designed for a 1,100-1,300km (600-700nm) radius of action and for carrying surveillance and reconnaissance payloads as well as weapons such as Boeing's small-diameter bomb and Lockheed Martin's low-cost autonomous attack system (LOCAAS) mini-missile.

The 5.8m (19ft)-tall vehicle would be boosted out of one of the submarine's 24 ex-Trident missile tubes by two expendable Mk135-class Tomahawk missile rockets. This would provide a 10-12s window to start up the UAV's 3,000lb-thrust (13.3kN) turbofan engine, possibly a Honeywell AS903 derivative. High-pressure nitrogen would start the engine rapidly, as well as over-pressure the internal cavities of the UAV by about 0.345bar (5lb/in2) to offset pressures and prevent water ingestion. Silicone-based sealants and syntactic foams would also be used to prevent leakage.

These features would also help maintain low observability during the UAV's flight towards the coastline after launch and wing deployment. After completion of its mission, the UAV will return for a splashdown recovery, which is a "whole different ball game with a 9,000lb aircraft and a 125-130kt [230-240km/h] stall speed", says Ruszkowski. "There are several ways to do it. One is to stall and do a pre-programmed 'Cobra' manoeuvre, and a more plausible option is to deploy a chute and re-enter nose first." The target is to keep impact loads in the 5-10g range, requiring a 4.5-5.5m-diameter parachute.

Below the water, the UAV would be located by sonar and recovered by a remotely operated submersible.


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Bellman



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The payload capabilty of the UAV is titillating - opening up a range of new tactical options. Seeding what where ?
Maybe some of the smaller proposed range of UUVs under development would be ideal candidates ?

But returning to gameing - it would be great if someone could mod the UUV do some of the fancy things being spun
by the military. I think LW used some of the UUV stuff to do the torp 'show active track' mod which was withdrawn.

You might consider longer ranges, sleeper mode, an Ami variant of depth and speed control. An interesting
extension of function would be surfacing (ariel-less) to act as a llink communicator. This in addition to the
reported MOSS functions. Dont know whether anything is possible.

The deception and surveillance functions are appealing. :hmm:

Heck - sorry, its easy to say would'nt it be great when you have no concept of the amount of work entailed.
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