How to ID enemy torp type?

MarkShot · Joined: 07 Jul 2002 Posts: 491

I am playing a mission and I get TIW.

First, I get killed. But on the replay I see that it was an L5.

So, I reload a save game, but this time instead of trying to use CMs, I simply go to flank and run it out of gas (which seems quite doable with an L5).

My question is how can you identify what the weapon is when you get a TIW?

Thanks.

Thomasew · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:37 pm Post subject:

Hi MS

Well, ... Torps tend to be pretty noisy, .. so, once you have the TIW bearing, .. go to your Narrowband Sonar, .. and check that bearing.

You should have most of the Frequency Lines, .. which will aid you in identifying the Torp.

Cheers
Tom

Guest · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:09 pm Post subject:

You can also use active intercept, and identify the torp from the frequency it is "pinging" you with.

By then, however, you had better react quickly.

Cheers.

MarkShot · Joined: 07 Jul 2002 Posts: 491

Is there document somewhere that lists torp ping frequencies?

Thanks.

Thomasew · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject:

Hi Mark

Didn't ascertain whether you were using SC or SCX .. Confused

In any event, .. the Active Intercept may not provide the Torpedo Type timeously enough. The Torp may have been fired from 10,000 yards away, .. yet only go Active when it is 2000 yards away. It may even be a Passive Torpedo.

Your best bet, .. is to ID/Classify it in Narrowband.

As to Torp Ping Frequencies, .. if you are using default SC, .. then all Active Torps use the same frequency .. i.e. 20,000 Hz.

If using SCX, .. there is 'some' variance in Torp Active frequencies. I never completed the work on Torp Sonars, .. as SCX was an ongoing project, .. and down the line, .. each Torp would have it's own Sonars.

Currently, .. only about 4 Torps are distinct from the others.

Mark 48 ADCAP = 21500
Mark 46 Captor = 21450
Spearfish = 22700
UGST = 19500

The rest are based on the maximum speed of the Torp:-

20500 = Torp Max Speed of 50 knots.
20450 = Torp max Speed of 45 knots.

and so on ...

So, .. although certainly not definitive, .. it did allow you to guess/estimate what Torpedo was incoming, .. and more importantly ... knowing the incoming Torp's speed, .. would allow you to guesstimate, ... how long you had to live ... Smile

Cheers
Tom

MarkShot · Joined: 07 Jul 2002 Posts: 491

That particular mission was with vanilla SC. Although, I have both SC and SCXIIc/SCU installed. (I am using the dual install registry import procedure developed by Tinman 5842 to run both side by side. I copied the details down about three years ago.)

Two questions come to mind:

(1) Although the inbound torp is loud, it is often on the same bearing as the shooter and thus the merged acoustic signatures prevents a NB ID from being readily displayed. Or even worse if you fired the first shot, then you have the target's signature, your torp's signature, and his torp's signature all on the same bearing. Then, how do you ID?

(2) I was planning to play through the vanilla SC scenarios and campaign under vanilla SC before moving on to SCX play. I figured that the vanilla stuff might not play well under SCX as it wasn't designed for SCX. Does that make sense or should I just skip vanilla SC and begin my cruise with SCX?

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Oh, and since I am corresponding with the author of SCX, I would like to thank you for your selfless work and sharing with me.

Baron Max · Joined: 21 Sep 2001 Posts: 618

Thomasew · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject:

Hi Mark

Well, .. Baron has, .. more or less, .. answered your first question. Smile

The SC Missions should play just fine with SCX, ... if not a bit better. I did test many of them with SCX, .. and enjoyed them thoroughly.

You are most welcome, ... hope you enjoy playing with SCX ... Smile

Shoot First ... Smile

Happy Sailing ...

Cheers
Tom