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TwistedFemur



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Is this you,Neal? Reply with quote

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/7612/batfish.html
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Neal Stevens



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy in the pic is Paul, the website is one of my old ones, yeah Wink
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shole



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn
either the sea dried real quick or they ran aground hard!
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Sailor Steve



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't you know your history? That's one of the 'Para-Subs', designed to infiltrate enemy lakes. They were just a few yards off, that's all.
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oscar19681



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this gives martime special operations a whole new twist!
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Letum



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nah, thats a type XVI land sub.
They never worked coz they couldn't make them heavy enough to sink in to the ground
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Abraham



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:32 am    Post subject: Is this you,Neal? Reply with quote

And, as with so many naval breakthroughs, it was a British invention. The subs were delivered by the Special Air Service.
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Bill Nichols



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True story: I was driving through Oklahoma years ago, and I looked over to the side of the road and saw what I could swear was a periscope sticking up over a nearby hill. I was past it before I could take a second look. Low and behold, the next exit had a sign for the USS Batfish memorial!

I pulled off and paid a couple of dollars to go onboard. Very interesting -- noone else was onboard, I could go almost anywhere I wanted, poke around here and there, etc. I opened a bench locker in the maneuvering room and found a stack of original blueprints!

Most interesting to me, was how much of the equipment, furnishings, etc. on this WW2 sub were exactly the same as what I had on my own boat, in the late-1970s. Neutral\


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Abraham



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:54 am    Post subject: Is that you, Neal? Reply with quote

Bill Nichols wrote:
True story: I was driving through Oklahoma years ago, and I looked over to the side of the road and saw what I could swear was a periscope sticking up over a nearby hill. I was past it before I could take a second look. Low and behold, the next exit had a sign for the USS Batfish memorial!

I can imagine that you were doubting your very eyes!
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Most interesting to me, was how much of the equipment, furnishings, etc. on this WW2 sub were exactly the same as what I had on my own boat, in the late-1980s. Neutral\

Is that true? Even equipment on a nuclear sub dated from the Balao's? And that was WW II equipment (because the Batfish was decommissioned Jan 11th, 1960)?
From your website I know that you served on the USS Nautilus, but when you're talking about the late eighties you must be referring to a much more modern boat.....
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Bill Nichols



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, should have said, "late 1970s". Even so, it was surprising!
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Abraham



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:19 pm    Post subject: Will the Type VII have a Quicker dive time than the Type IX? Reply with quote

OK Bill,
That makes more sense to me.
In my humble opinion the Nautilus was very much a WW II concept in which the propulsion unit was replaced by a nuclear reactor. I have always understood that in the Tench-class America's submarine technology reached it's WW II pinnacle and that afterwards there were only two area's for improvement, streamlining, like first the Guppies and later the Albacore and propulsion, like the Nautilus. I understood that those two ideas were later combined in the Skipjack-class.
So basically the Nautilus was a follow on of the Balao with a radical new propulsion system but probably lots of WW II systems that never left the boat. Right....?
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Bill Nichols



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, for example, we had a WW2-style torpedo fire-control computer. Totally analog - the size of a refridgerator and chock-full of gears!
Somehow, Electric Boat got it to interface with our Mark-48 torpedo firing consoles, I pity the engineer who had to have both-feet in two worlds, so to speak.
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Abraham



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:31 pm    Post subject: Is this you,Neal? Reply with quote

Thanks Bill for some interesting inside information.
It only proves that this site is the only place the have fun and learn something in the meantime.
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Bill Nichols



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I could tell you about Nautilus's reactor control system, would make you cringe! :dead:
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Abraham



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:46 am    Post subject: Is this you,Neal? Reply with quote

Really?
Share it on your interesting website, or write a book, if it's not classified info anymore...
Very Happy
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